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*lighting a match* the VW R32 "is the new 250hp TT without dsg..."

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 08:54 PM
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Default *lighting a match* the VW R32 "is the new 250hp TT without dsg..."

and the brakes are better, and the seats are waaaay better

I wonder what the owner of "Synora TT" thinks, you own both right?<ul><li><a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/other/msgs/2745961.phtml">the post.</a></li></ul>
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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Default They're different cars...

Each has it's own positives and negatives. Generally, they're going to appeal to two different markets, although there's obviously going to be some crossover interest.

I'm not sure what the deal is with the R32's seats, but I think ALL TT seats are about as good as it gets. They are very comfortable and supportive, to my backside anyway. In terms of the 3.2's brakes, they might or might not be as good as the R32's, but they're based on the RS4 brakes and are pretty good in my opinion.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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240 hp not 250
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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Default don't believe the horsepower is actually different

i drove bought, came within a hair of signing for the 3.2TT and at the very last second drove the R32
didn't leave the dealership without signing for the R32

it's hard to actually compare hp as the TT is DSG and the R32 only comes w 6spd tranny

but the folks on the R32 board seem to think vw did it because of the hp limitation on the race series vw promotes which is limited to 240
both Audi and VW indicate the same torque 236 ft lbs

loved and still love the looks of the TT
and everytime one of you guys posts a pix of a roadster, especially with the baseball glove leather interior, i drool, plain and simple

but this was going to be a toy car for me,
and the R32 felt more like a motorcycle with 4 wheels, plus 10k lighter on the wallet and could carry more

the brakes, no comparison
sorry guys
the TT's brakes are beautiful, but if i recall correctly the TT's rotors were 326mm - the R32s are 332, which isn't much, 6mm or 1/4"

and the tires are pretty much dedicated for driving like you stole it, they're goodyear F1 GSD3s - incredibly sticky with good water drainage
but not winter tires

which means a set of wheels with winter tires (but honey, we can't just park it in the winter)

it would be interesting if TTs came with a 6 spd or R32s with DSG to compare the two
suspect the R32s will have DSG next year


the last reason for swinging toward the R32 was the option of the VF supercharger

but god i love the look of the TT
so if i show up at a TT gathering, you'll know it's me - i'll be wearing a bib
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:05 PM
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think they both have 334mm brakes
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Default Actually...

the brakes on the R32 and the TT 3.2 are *indentical* so I'm wondering whether you just felt the R32 brake harder because it dives more than the TT..

Here's the <a href="http://www.divergent.org/mikes.vws/r32specs.pdf">R32 spec sheet</a> showing the 334 mm front brakes.
I couldn't find the TT 3.2's spec sheet, however here's a <a href="http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=reviews &loc_code=index&content_code=02992969">review from autoweek.com</a> which shows 13.15-inch front brakes (I don't quite believe the 9hp difference due to "less restrictive exhaust" though..)

So, if my math is correct, 13.15 * 2.54 = 334 mm :-)
Personally, I find the TT 3.2's brakes simply amazing - I've never set the ABS off, although I've tried braking very hard on purpose..
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 04:29 AM
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the TT 3.2 is a TT; R32 is a *Golf* -- a *Golf*! :c)
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 04:43 AM
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Default correct I own both - very similar cars but with different purposes

<b>TT 3.2</b>
Great car, great gearbox, ok handling, awesome looks, 250hp, 236lbt, all round fun

<b>R32</b>
Great car, awesome seats, room for 4 adults (or 2 German Shepherds), ok handling (better now I've changed the suspension), ok looks, 240hp, 236lbt (although reports and dynos show same hp as 3.2 TT) and since I've driven both I'd have to agree

At the end of the day it's going to come down to taste, personal prefernce and a whole bunch of other things. My wife wanted the TT and offered me the chance to get the R32 (to play with tuning wise) an offer I couldn't refuse.

For me (at the end of the day) the price difference between the 2 (some $10-$12k) was not wort it so I got the R32.

ps: they both have the same RS4 inspired HUGE brakes
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 04:55 AM
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Default Same here. I was at Mid Ohio last weekend...

and the brakes never faded nor did the ABS activate. I actually made a point of saying that to some buddies after repeated hard braking from 120 mph to 65 mph at the end of the long straight, heading in to turn 7.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 04:58 AM
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Default Basing your decision heavily on cost, you made the right decision.

I was faced with the same decision early this year.

It came down to what I would want to drive daily and coming from an S4, the TT was not only sportier in appearance IMO, but more sophisticated, and luxurious than the R32. The R32 would have been the car I bought right out of college or if I was looking simply for a fun/track car. Oh and there is no comparison with the design. The TT is sporty and timeless, a current classic that I had to own. The swooping fast lines that personify motion just pulled me away from the obvious bang-for-the-buck advantage the boxier R32 has over the TT.

Had I been in your position, I would have likely done the same thing. Nice choice.

Oh and as for that price $$ difference, I was able to get 10% off sticker on the TT while the R32 sold at sticker. We'll see how the values hold up on each too (not a dig, I really am curious given the limited numbers of each).
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