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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Default TT USED 2 have hum in 2nd @2850rpm (quit @2950). After moving subframe during alignment >

(STILL not correct- 2nd attempt, 3rd tomorrow), there's been a change.

Here's the deal. While driving and shifting from 1st to 2nd, at 2850rpm, a distinct grunt (or HUMMMM was heard). It lasted a very short time (less than a second) and was NOT reproduceable through any other gear or speed.

Today, while having the car aligned, because the shop could not get the toe and camber to where I wanted it (specs provided here), I asked them to loosen the "cradle" and shift it opposite of where they had the ball joints maxed out (ball joint/control arm connections were pushed as far to the right as possible). So, sub-frame was shifted 1/4" to the left (driver's side). Car is still not driving straight and steering wheel is not at 12 o'clock, but that's another story.

Now, when driving, I can hear the "honk" (it's more of a HMMMMmm (and can be felt ever-so-slightly in the steering wheel)) in 1st at 2500rpm, then in 2nd from 2500-3400rpm AND from 4500-5000rpm. AND, it's also the same in 3rd at 2500.

Obviously the shifting of the sub-frame has brought some piece of thin (tinny) metal closer to some other thicker piece of metal (the car) and as the engine/transmission sing through the revolutions and gears, a harmonic frequency is being re-produced through this area.

This sound cannot be reproduced when the car is parked (transmission not engaged), so it's only heard while moving.

It sounds like it's coming from a point forward of where the driver sits, but not exactly sure.

So, LONG post (sorry), but short question: ANYONE ever have this, hear of it, OR have an idea of where I can look to try to remove this?

May not be irritating to you (if you had it), but I'd rather not listen to it.

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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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Get underneath and look for signs of rubbing at the axle flanges/CV boots?
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 05:52 PM
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Will do (and thanks for the idea). Shifting- tried to call, but no joy. We still on for the 9th?
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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9 December we are!
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 05:17 AM
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Default well...could also be two other things>>>

could be a DV problem as you would only notice that under a load, not at idle or revving the motor. Not actually hearing it makes it a tough call here...

Have you checked all of your exhaust hangers?
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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Check the heat shield by the downpipe by the ps rack
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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Default Hans- will get it on a lift when I come back and go over it front to rear. Running out of time on

this car, so don't need any more issues.

Thanks for the insight.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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Default Could try and record the sounds, but I don't think a recording would pick it up.

Again, I can even feel the vibration of the "huhhh" through the steering wheel (though more pronounced in 2nd and third).

I did, however, find the shop failed to connect the belly pan to the wheel well and the sound I am hearing IS a vibration of some sort. Am doing an engine flush today, so when the car is on the ramps, I'll re-connect and check the underside of the car very carefully.

Thanks.
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Default I have had that one for a while

but I hear it more often (in neutral and other gears) than you. I've chased it for years and never have found it.

Maybe I will get the subframe alignment checked.
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