Doing some DE events, but do not want to go BBK.
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Doing some DE events, but do not want to go BBK.
What rotors, pads and fluid would you recommend for a 3-5 event per year S4 that sees daily driving duties 9 months of the year? I know all of the benefits of the BBK on the track, I just do not want to invest that much into the S4 right now. I want to have fun at the track a couple of times a year(like the April Autobahn event), but keep the S4 mod bug under control. I would really like to hear from some that are doing DE events and have kept the stock brakes.
Thanks!
Pat
2001.5 Audi S4 APR Stage 2 (Mine)
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Pat
2001.5 Audi S4 APR Stage 2 (Mine)
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3-5 events a year on a stg 2 S4? Thats easy...
You need a bbk 
If you wanted to keep your stock brakes you need to put in some Motul 600 or 660 brake fluid, get a decent set of track pads (NOT hp+'s) probably Hawk HT10 or better and some spare rotors.
You'll cook the hell out of those brakes and probably have a couple of scares if you start getting really fast.
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If you wanted to keep your stock brakes you need to put in some Motul 600 or 660 brake fluid, get a decent set of track pads (NOT hp+'s) probably Hawk HT10 or better and some spare rotors.
You'll cook the hell out of those brakes and probably have a couple of scares if you start getting really fast.
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OK, I understand that the BBK is the preffered set-up.
If I went the stock set-up with the Motul fluid and hawk pads that you suggest, do you have any recommendation on a rotor? I am just trying to avoid spending on the BBK for 3-5 events per year.
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agree with those below. You WILL NOT be happy trying to find double duty pads...
the S4 is too much of a pig to track with anything less than track pads IMO.
You can't use full track pads on the street (well, you can, but the noise will drive you crazy and they don't so well when they are cold).
Flush your stock brake fluid and refill with something good like SpartanS4 says.
Real track pads are a must.
You can't use full track pads on the street (well, you can, but the noise will drive you crazy and they don't so well when they are cold).
Flush your stock brake fluid and refill with something good like SpartanS4 says.
Real track pads are a must.
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3-5 events is alot in a year. Hell I only do 5-6
You will destroy your brakes and spend $$ on rotors. Why not check out the classifieds? There are always brakes for sale and you can get a good price.
Hell even pooptech 332's are better than stock (somewhat) and those are like $1k used.
Your getting into an expensive hobby here. My honest advice since you won't get a bbk out of the box is to put in motul fluid with some HT-10 pads and go to an event. It will ge a good learning experince for you
Hell even pooptech 332's are better than stock (somewhat) and those are like $1k used.
Your getting into an expensive hobby here. My honest advice since you won't get a bbk out of the box is to put in motul fluid with some HT-10 pads and go to an event. It will ge a good learning experince for you
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brake vents and ferodo DS 2500 will work
they are the following....
loud
dirty
hard on rotors
they will hold up pretty well on the track but you'll fade them if you drive hard enough especially if you run track tires. on street tires you'll probably be ok
in my experience this is good duel use pad if there is such a thing. I tracked with them many many times and it usually worked out pretty well
on the other hand, why not just buy race pads and install them at the track? lots of people do this. you may want to bring an extra set of rotors jut in case
fyi the s4 is not a cheap car to track so be aware you'll be spending lots of money regardless
I did track events for several years on stock brakes w/ track pads and I eventually burned the caliper seals and could not get a firm pedal.
It also depends on your driving style. if you are smooth and easy on the brakes they should be ok with a decent pad. if they start to fade just don't slow down so much!
loud
dirty
hard on rotors
they will hold up pretty well on the track but you'll fade them if you drive hard enough especially if you run track tires. on street tires you'll probably be ok
in my experience this is good duel use pad if there is such a thing. I tracked with them many many times and it usually worked out pretty well
on the other hand, why not just buy race pads and install them at the track? lots of people do this. you may want to bring an extra set of rotors jut in case
fyi the s4 is not a cheap car to track so be aware you'll be spending lots of money regardless
I did track events for several years on stock brakes w/ track pads and I eventually burned the caliper seals and could not get a firm pedal.
It also depends on your driving style. if you are smooth and easy on the brakes they should be ok with a decent pad. if they start to fade just don't slow down so much!