Sway Bars maybe????
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Sway Bars maybe????
Right, so I decide to go to the store w/ my dad and I decide to open up the car and see how fast I can go... well I'm going and I slow down to turn somewhat and the back end just seems to slide on me. It's happened to do it before when going fast and turning even at speeds like 40mph, it seems the back ends loose and sliding.... would Sway Bars help this??? and also where can I get some and a strut bar???
BTW, the car ran great (stock) and I managed to get up to 120, then a Buick got in my way... so I had to slow down.
BTW, the car ran great (stock) and I managed to get up to 120, then a Buick got in my way... so I had to slow down.
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You mean while you're braking?
It's hard to understand what you mean, but if you're braking, you are transferring a large amount of weight to the front wheels. Of course if you turn and brake mid-corner you can lose the rear.
A sway bar has two functions. One is to transfer weight from the inside wheel to the outside, and to stiffen the suspension. The bar doesn't have a function while you're traveling in a straight line. The stiffest end of the car, receives the most weight while cornering, so if you install a huge bar on the rear you are just going to increase what you are already feeling. I am not ure how you are doing this though, since if you are cornering correctly, that shouldn't be the case.
More details would help.
Mike
A sway bar has two functions. One is to transfer weight from the inside wheel to the outside, and to stiffen the suspension. The bar doesn't have a function while you're traveling in a straight line. The stiffest end of the car, receives the most weight while cornering, so if you install a huge bar on the rear you are just going to increase what you are already feeling. I am not ure how you are doing this though, since if you are cornering correctly, that shouldn't be the case.
More details would help.
Mike
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you need some suspension upgrades (sway bars depending on which axle may exaggerate the oversteer)
large rear sway bar=oversteer (sliding back end)
recommend staying with factory sway bars or update to sport package wasy bays and then do a
upgraded suspension possibly a shock/spring combo or a coilover set up. We can help you with both if you would like. PES also has financing available.
recommend staying with factory sway bars or update to sport package wasy bays and then do a
upgraded suspension possibly a shock/spring combo or a coilover set up. We can help you with both if you would like. PES also has financing available.
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vehicle dynamics lesson 101
tire contact patch can deliver 100% grip to acceleration, steering ,braking one at a time.
when you slow down and turn at the same time you are asking the tire cotact patch to do two jobs, being that there is only 100% to go around, the contact patch is only be able to turn 50% and brake 50% once you exceed this percentage that is when the car starts to slide
also a weight tranfer takes place when you slow down thus putting more pressure on the front wheels allowing them to have better grip, since the rears are unweighted they have less grip compounding the oversteer problem that you expereienced. This is not meant as an insult but if you have the cash a professional driving school is the way to go I.E. Skip Barber race school you will have SO MUCH FUN, it may pave the way for a severe addiction to automobile road racing (road as in track not 1/4 mile drag)
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when you slow down and turn at the same time you are asking the tire cotact patch to do two jobs, being that there is only 100% to go around, the contact patch is only be able to turn 50% and brake 50% once you exceed this percentage that is when the car starts to slide
also a weight tranfer takes place when you slow down thus putting more pressure on the front wheels allowing them to have better grip, since the rears are unweighted they have less grip compounding the oversteer problem that you expereienced. This is not meant as an insult but if you have the cash a professional driving school is the way to go I.E. Skip Barber race school you will have SO MUCH FUN, it may pave the way for a severe addiction to automobile road racing (road as in track not 1/4 mile drag)
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