S5 Coupe will keep V8 until 2011 model
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S5 Coupe will keep V8 until 2011 model
FYI- I know this somewhat old news but there were recent rumors that at the past Herndon meeting Audi was pushing up the 3.0T engine sooner, this states otherwise.
Direct from Audi US Website:
S5 Coupe manual and 6-speed Tiptronic® 354 hp / 325 lb-ft V8 continue for another year through the end of model year 2010; 2011 S5 Coupe will have 3.0 TFSI® supercharger with 333 hp / 325 lb-ft, and manual and 7-speed S tronic® transmissions.
So...
2010 S4 coupe
V8- yes
3GMMI- yes
Led Tails-?
Sport Dif-?<ul><li><a href="http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/new_cars/Audi_A5/A5_S5_Cabriolet/Performance.html">http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/new_cars/Audi_A5/A5_S5_Cabriolet/Performance.html</a</li></ul>
Direct from Audi US Website:
S5 Coupe manual and 6-speed Tiptronic® 354 hp / 325 lb-ft V8 continue for another year through the end of model year 2010; 2011 S5 Coupe will have 3.0 TFSI® supercharger with 333 hp / 325 lb-ft, and manual and 7-speed S tronic® transmissions.
So...
2010 S4 coupe
V8- yes
3GMMI- yes
Led Tails-?
Sport Dif-?<ul><li><a href="http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/new_cars/Audi_A5/A5_S5_Cabriolet/Performance.html">http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/new_cars/Audi_A5/A5_S5_Cabriolet/Performance.html</a</li></ul>
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A shame Audi has to postpone the superior 3.0T engine/drivetrain...
... Audi really needs a 335i killer in the US and the S5 with ye 'ol 4.2 porker just can't compete with the dynamically superior BMW. Hopefully the sport diff will come sooner but I wouldn't hold my breath.
At least Europeans will enjoy the faster, more modern, better handling and more fuel efficient version of the S5 a year early. That's the advantage of not having as strong a muscle car obsession I suppose.
Best to only include a highly-tuned version of the V8 for the RS5. And I believe that's the new plan for the foreseeable future.
At least Europeans will enjoy the faster, more modern, better handling and more fuel efficient version of the S5 a year early. That's the advantage of not having as strong a muscle car obsession I suppose.
Best to only include a highly-tuned version of the V8 for the RS5. And I believe that's the new plan for the foreseeable future.
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Had an A6 4.2 for a week and and drove an S5 for an hour...
... plenty of time to get to know the 4.2.
Don't get me wrong, I did like it. Very muscular with great sound. Most impressive feature was its linear delivery which kept pulling strongly even at highway speeds. But it was also this linear delivery which made the ride a bit boring.
I drove a 335i soon after and the BMW clearly had the performance edge with its more peppy turbo 6 and sport diff. It also felt faster. An S5 (which is the 335's closest competitor) would fair better with the wider power band, slight weight reduction, better fuel economy and more immediate (i.e fun) delivery of a super 6. I'll gladly sacrifice the 'V8 burble' in exchange for all of the above.
To me the smoother V8 is better suited for a large cruiser like the A8 or be tuned to the extreme for the R8.
And again that's what Audi is set to do. Give the S5 a supercharged V6 and the RS5 an insanely overturned V8. Makes more sense to me.
Don't get me wrong, I did like it. Very muscular with great sound. Most impressive feature was its linear delivery which kept pulling strongly even at highway speeds. But it was also this linear delivery which made the ride a bit boring.
I drove a 335i soon after and the BMW clearly had the performance edge with its more peppy turbo 6 and sport diff. It also felt faster. An S5 (which is the 335's closest competitor) would fair better with the wider power band, slight weight reduction, better fuel economy and more immediate (i.e fun) delivery of a super 6. I'll gladly sacrifice the 'V8 burble' in exchange for all of the above.
To me the smoother V8 is better suited for a large cruiser like the A8 or be tuned to the extreme for the R8.
And again that's what Audi is set to do. Give the S5 a supercharged V6 and the RS5 an insanely overturned V8. Makes more sense to me.
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I would agree if one assumed Audi intended the S5 to be a "sportiness" rival to the 335
Audi has had a different approach to performance vehicle design than BMW from the get go. For BMW the lower end cars in a series are always an evolution to the high performance M cars.
For instance the current 335 is on par, if not better than the previous generation M3. More power, same suspension, etc.
Audi has had very different strategy. The A and S variants have always been tuned towards street comfort and wider appeal.
For instance the current top end A4 doesn't come close to the performance of the last generation S4.
The RS cars, equivalent to the M cars, have always been a revolution above their lower end mates.
The 100lbs you might save by putting the SC V6 into a S5 is not going to give you a better S5 on weight alone. I've even read that the SC V6 has a peak'ier characteristic, similar to the tt I6 in the 335, and yet is slower than the V8. Turn-in performance will improve, but only slightly, and most likely only noticeable on the track. Certainly not enough to make up for the loss of that butter smooth gurgle and power-in-any-gear feeling the current 4.2l V8 delivers.
I've had 5 years of S tuned V8 experience.
And this is just my opinion.
I have to say that I am excited to see what the after market and Quattro GmbH dream up for performance tuning on this new SC v6.
For instance the current 335 is on par, if not better than the previous generation M3. More power, same suspension, etc.
Audi has had very different strategy. The A and S variants have always been tuned towards street comfort and wider appeal.
For instance the current top end A4 doesn't come close to the performance of the last generation S4.
The RS cars, equivalent to the M cars, have always been a revolution above their lower end mates.
The 100lbs you might save by putting the SC V6 into a S5 is not going to give you a better S5 on weight alone. I've even read that the SC V6 has a peak'ier characteristic, similar to the tt I6 in the 335, and yet is slower than the V8. Turn-in performance will improve, but only slightly, and most likely only noticeable on the track. Certainly not enough to make up for the loss of that butter smooth gurgle and power-in-any-gear feeling the current 4.2l V8 delivers.
I've had 5 years of S tuned V8 experience.
And this is just my opinion.
I have to say that I am excited to see what the after market and Quattro GmbH dream up for performance tuning on this new SC v6.
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Autonews reported end of 2010 model
From autonews last week ago:
"But Audi will drop the V-8 from the S5 coupe at the end of the 2010 model year. Replacing it will be the same 3.0-liter supercharged V-6 that comes standard in the new S5 Cabriolet."
"But Audi will drop the V-8 from the S5 coupe at the end of the 2010 model year. Replacing it will be the same 3.0-liter supercharged V-6 that comes standard in the new S5 Cabriolet."
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Not so
The V6T is lighter than the V8 and produces more torque. It should make it a faster car than the V8 on a track or twisty road, allied to the sport diff (which the V8 doesn't have) and to the much faster S-tronic box, if you don't want to stir your own.
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It's not faster, it's a hair slower, the V8 is slightly faster atleast on paper.
And certainly will be faster on highway, while you are redlining the V8 is open and breathy doing it's thing!!!
And the sound is glorious, you know , what I'm going out to the garage for a drive right now, for no apparent reason what so ever!!
Thanks!!! I love my S5!
And the sound is glorious, you know , what I'm going out to the garage for a drive right now, for no apparent reason what so ever!!
Thanks!!! I love my S5!