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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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Just replace the timing belt kit from Blaupart due to a bad thermostat. The tensioner gap was checked 3 times (6 crankshaft revolutions) and remained at ~5mm. I then filled the cooling system with ~2.5 gallons of 50/50 mix of G12+ and distilled water and ran the engine in the garage for ~15 - 20 minutes. All engine parameters looked ok with VCDS. The car was turned off for another 15 minutes or so and as I re-install the timing covers I decided to check the timing belt tension with my bare hands and noticed that it was quite loose. I then re-started the engine, turned it off then re-check the tension and it is where I would expect it to be. But with more time passed, it was loose again (~1/2" deflection between W/P pulley and right cam gear). Is this normal?
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 02:36 PM
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That's how mine usually behaves. I believe one camshaft drifts slightly due to valve spring tension when the engine is shut off.

The real test will be when you open it up on the highway. Either the engine will scream with delight or you will hear the dreaded thud.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 03:19 PM
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You've stated in other posts that you periodically check the condition of the T/B. Do you recall how much deflection was there after the engine's been off for a while? Btw, the serpentine belt I received in the kit was way too short (more than 2"). So I re-mounted the old belt (was just replaced last winter) since I couldn't get it to clear the pulleys even with two guys.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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Just like mine. Sometimes there is 1/2" to 3/4" play which is scary but Iv had someone start the car while I watched with the covers off, it tensions right up.

As long as you used the correct tool with torque wrence to adjust the belt tension you should be good to go.

As far as your serpentine belt goes, if you read the saga of mine on my road trip in Northeast Oklahoma on July 2, be happy you are using an OEM belt.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Diskman
Just replace the timing belt kit from Blaupart due to a bad thermostat. The tensioner gap was checked 3 times (6 crankshaft revolutions) and remained at ~5mm. I then filled the cooling system with ~2.5 gallons of 50/50 mix of G12+ and distilled water and ran the engine in the garage for ~15 - 20 minutes. All engine parameters looked ok with VCDS. The car was turned off for another 15 minutes or so and as I re-install the timing covers I decided to check the timing belt tension with my bare hands and noticed that it was quite loose. I then re-started the engine, turned it off then re-check the tension and it is where I would expect it to be. But with more time passed, it was loose again (~1/2" deflection between W/P pulley and right cam gear). Is this normal?
I did a 4.2 V8 belt change as well. Cold engine has play and tensioner piston may depress completely. Start, run for 10 seconds, then shut off and there is a lot more tension.

Have you recently checked / viewed the TB? Have you seen anyone else with this ?
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Diskman
Just replace the timing belt kit from Blaupart due to a bad thermostat. The tensioner gap was checked 3 times (6 crankshaft revolutions) and remained at ~5mm. I then filled the cooling system with ~2.5 gallons of 50/50 mix of G12+ and distilled water and ran the engine in the garage for ~15 - 20 minutes. All engine parameters looked ok with VCDS. The car was turned off for another 15 minutes or so and as I re-install the timing covers I decided to check the timing belt tension with my bare hands and noticed that it was quite loose. I then re-started the engine, turned it off then re-check the tension and it is where I would expect it to be. But with more time passed, it was loose again (~1/2" deflection between W/P pulley and right cam gear). Is this normal?
I just thought of something else, did you pop the cam shaft gears before adding tension?
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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I've been checking the timing belt every couple of weeks. It has about 2k miles on it now and the tension has been normal. I don't know what you mean by adding tension. Audi service manual said to insert the 5mm allen key with cam gears on (but not tightened), tighten eccentric pulley, install the cam locking tool, tighten both cam gears, remove cam locking tool, remove allen key, remove crank locking tool, then rotate crank 2 revs to check gap spacing.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Diskman
I've been checking the timing belt every couple of weeks. It has about 2k miles on it now and the tension has been normal. I don't know what you mean by adding tension. Audi service manual said to insert the 5mm allen key with cam gears on (but not tightened), tighten eccentric pulley, install the cam locking tool, tighten both cam gears, remove cam locking tool, remove allen key, remove crank locking tool, then rotate crank 2 revs to check gap spacing.
I think you missed an important step; You don't just "tighten the eccentric pulley"; You have to tension the belt by rotating the eccentric pulley using the special tool (Tensioner wrench # T40009) and rotating it CCW using a torque wrench setting the torque to 6Nm. While holding the eccentric pulley in place, you then tighten its' locking bolt to 45Nm. This is how you add tension and then you remove the locking tool, allen wrench and the locking pin from the hydraulic dampener etc.

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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 09:34 AM
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Wasn't trying to list the instructions in detail. I didn't miss that step doing the actual T/B job.
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Originally Posted by Diskman
Wasn't trying to list the instructions in detail. I didn't miss that step doing the actual T/B job.
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