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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 04:10 AM
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My '90 80Q has, under the dash on the driver's side, kind of a bulgy pad that I think is related to the airbag.

My question is, do the non-airbag cars (earlier B3s) have a storage bin there like the 4000s did? Or do they all have that pad?

If they came with a storage bin and someone has beige one to sell, I'd be interested in buying it!
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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Not a dumb question at all, all the '90 & '93 nineties I've had, have had the package shelf in front of the driver's knees. Is the pad just that, a pad; or is it explosive?
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 12:58 PM
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Ooh! A package shelf would be nice.

The pad is just a pad. I think it's meant, in conjunction with the airbag, to keep your knees from going under the dash if you crash without your seatbelt on. Probably a good idea if you don't wear your seatbelt, but I always do. And honestly the thing just looks like a cancerous growth on the underside of the dash
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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The shelf is nice, my 88' has it and it came in handy. I actually put a 10 disc cd changer in it which fit perfectly and made changing out the CD mag painless.
The pad your talking about which looks like matted yarn is just insulation.

As for the shelf, check car-parts.com for a B3 90 in your area and buy the shelf, it won't cost much at all since it's not what one would say a popular item.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 03:33 AM
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My '93 90 came with the pad, so I assumed they were all like that. Then when I found a shelf at the junkyard, I thought "holy crap, score!" Then I found another one, and I bought it thinking I could sell this uber rare part for profit. Then I found a third one and bought it too. Then I figured, maybe they're not that rare after all?

I still haven't seen a single B4 that comes with one in all the CL ads and cars I've seen in person, so I don't know, maybe it's partially rare?

I have a gray one and black one for sale if you're interested, $55 shipped?
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 04:48 AM
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What does this elusive shelf look like? Are there photos of it in the wild?
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 06:11 AM
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The shelf only came in B3 cars - as for which B3 cars, it depends on whether your car has PROCON-TEN or not. Cars *with* PROCON had shelves while the ones without it had kneebars. When Airbags became standard, so did the kneebars.

Something similar can be seen in the VW models from the same era - when automatic seatbelts started showing up, big, massively ugly kneebars started appearing under the dash of those cars as well. Lucky for us we never got any of that mess in our cars.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 12:32 PM
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My B4s both came this way. This sales factory brochure (shelf barely visible) photo is from 20v.org.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Lago Blue
My B4s both came this way. This sales factory brochure (shelf barely visible) photo is from 20v.org.
Your B4s came which way? Not sure how it is in Canadia.

Interesting thing about that photo is the car also has almost all the wood of a 90, but the passenger side dash pad of an 80 (no wood trim). Maybe a pre-production car used for photography?
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My 93 90 (B4) has no wood tim on that side. I think the non PS airbag cars don't have the wood
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