RS3 2018 - power between 2000-4000rpm
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RS3 2018 - power between 2000-4000rpm
According to the spec, there is 354 lb-ft from 1700 rpm- 5,850 rpm
My RS3 has ~700 miles and I have tried to not exceed 5000 rpm so far.
When I'm in the 2nd gear at ~ 2000 rpm , full throttle, it doesn't really accelerate until at least 3000-3500 rpm.
In 7th gear, at ~ 2000 rpm, full throttle, the car doesn't accelerate at all during the first seconds, and then the speed increases very slowly, like ~1mph/sec.
Have tested in Comfort, auto and dynamic.
I'm trying to understand if there is some significant turbo lag, or something wrong with my engine. Or if it's locked in transport/valet mode, or something like that.
How does your drive between 2000-4000 rpm ? with 354lb-ft, we should feel the torque.
I have tested the S4 2018, A4 2.0 TFSI 2018, S6, BMW 335i, etc. All of them had a lot more power between 2000-4000 rpm.
My RS3 has ~700 miles and I have tried to not exceed 5000 rpm so far.
When I'm in the 2nd gear at ~ 2000 rpm , full throttle, it doesn't really accelerate until at least 3000-3500 rpm.
In 7th gear, at ~ 2000 rpm, full throttle, the car doesn't accelerate at all during the first seconds, and then the speed increases very slowly, like ~1mph/sec.
Have tested in Comfort, auto and dynamic.
I'm trying to understand if there is some significant turbo lag, or something wrong with my engine. Or if it's locked in transport/valet mode, or something like that.
How does your drive between 2000-4000 rpm ? with 354lb-ft, we should feel the torque.
I have tested the S4 2018, A4 2.0 TFSI 2018, S6, BMW 335i, etc. All of them had a lot more power between 2000-4000 rpm.
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I'm about 1,500 miles , and was playing around with this today with similar results. I didn't see "100% torque" displayed at 2,000 rpm under WoT. I did see 0.8g acceleration with a rolling start and 0.4g at highway speeds, so there's still good power in there
I spend a lot more time in 'S' despite the fuel hit, which avoids this 'problem'. I do appreciate the 'D' mellowness with the family or just chillin' on the highway, but it's not often. I'd guess the power hit is about 3,000 rpm with gears 5, 6, & 7 more overdrives?
I spend a lot more time in 'S' despite the fuel hit, which avoids this 'problem'. I do appreciate the 'D' mellowness with the family or just chillin' on the highway, but it's not often. I'd guess the power hit is about 3,000 rpm with gears 5, 6, & 7 more overdrives?
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According to the spec, there is 354 lb-ft from 1700 rpm- 5,850 rpm
My RS3 has ~700 miles and I have tried to not exceed 5000 rpm so far.
When I'm in the 2nd gear at ~ 2000 rpm , full throttle, it doesn't really accelerate until at least 3000-3500 rpm.
In 7th gear, at ~ 2000 rpm, full throttle, the car doesn't accelerate at all during the first seconds, and then the speed increases very slowly, like ~1mph/sec.
Have tested in Comfort, auto and dynamic.
I'm trying to understand if there is some significant turbo lag, or something wrong with my engine. Or if it's locked in transport/valet mode, or something like that.
How does your drive between 2000-4000 rpm ? with 354lb-ft, we should feel the torque.
I have tested the S4 2018, A4 2.0 TFSI 2018, S6, BMW 335i, etc. All of them had a lot more power between 2000-4000 rpm.
My RS3 has ~700 miles and I have tried to not exceed 5000 rpm so far.
When I'm in the 2nd gear at ~ 2000 rpm , full throttle, it doesn't really accelerate until at least 3000-3500 rpm.
In 7th gear, at ~ 2000 rpm, full throttle, the car doesn't accelerate at all during the first seconds, and then the speed increases very slowly, like ~1mph/sec.
Have tested in Comfort, auto and dynamic.
I'm trying to understand if there is some significant turbo lag, or something wrong with my engine. Or if it's locked in transport/valet mode, or something like that.
How does your drive between 2000-4000 rpm ? with 354lb-ft, we should feel the torque.
I have tested the S4 2018, A4 2.0 TFSI 2018, S6, BMW 335i, etc. All of them had a lot more power between 2000-4000 rpm.
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First of all stop. You floored your brand new rs3 in 7th at just 2k rpm?! Lugging the engine and needlessly over boosting is the last thing you want to do in your rs3. Going over the 5k range is better off than applying full throttle in 7th gear at 2k and in a turbo car
That was just for test purpose, it has ~ 700 miles. I never do that in general.
I'm surprised there's supposed to be a lot of torque at 2000 rpm but I don't feel it at all. In 2th, 3th, 4th, any gear
The S4 or BMW 335i has a lot more power at low rpm.
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I'm about 1,500 miles , and was playing around with this today with similar results. I didn't see "100% torque" displayed at 2,000 rpm under WoT. I did see 0.8g acceleration with a rolling start and 0.4g at highway speeds, so there's still good power in there
I spend a lot more time in 'S' despite the fuel hit, which avoids this 'problem'. I do appreciate the 'D' mellowness with the family or just chillin' on the highway, but it's not often. I'd guess the power hit is about 3,000 rpm with gears 5, 6, & 7 more overdrives?
I spend a lot more time in 'S' despite the fuel hit, which avoids this 'problem'. I do appreciate the 'D' mellowness with the family or just chillin' on the highway, but it's not often. I'd guess the power hit is about 3,000 rpm with gears 5, 6, & 7 more overdrives?
>> I didn't see "100% torque" displayed at 2,000 rpm under WoT
Me neither. I don't understand why. We are supposed to get max torque at 2,000 rpm.
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Also, what modes are you in? More details around your modes are likely needed.
Based on that, you might be able to figure things out. However, I would certainly NEVER judge a cars performance by its 7th gear drag... what speed where you going? Why didn't you down shift? Why were you not using the correct gear for the speed you were going? The power and torque is certainly there... but if you are in the wrong gear... you certainly wont see it. Anyone who has spent this kind of money of a performance car should know that... If you don't you should ask yourself what you are doing.
Also, as an additional side note, you are only at 700 miles!! You should not be doing any "tests" on the cars much less top gear drag tests. The top end gear in most cars is strictly designed for high speed cruising. Meaning it has a long travel, and is not designed for quick acceleration. Why anyone would ever try and test acceleration at the top gear, rather than down shifting is beyond me...
I feel sorry for the RS3 you have been given... Sounds like it is being abused. Is there an abused car hotline we can call?
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There have been several threads on this... You are still in the breakin period and should NOT BE DOING THIS!!
Also, what modes are you in? More details around your modes are likely needed.
Based on that, you might be able to figure things out. However, I would certainly NEVER judge a cars performance by its 7th gear drag... what speed where you going? Why didn't you down shift? Why were you not using the correct gear for the speed you were going? The power and torque is certainly there... but if you are in the wrong gear... you certainly wont see it. Anyone who has spent this kind of money of a performance car should know that... If you don't you should ask yourself what you are doing.
Also, as an additional side note, you are only at 700 miles!! You should not be doing any "tests" on the cars much less top gear drag tests. The top end gear in most cars is strictly designed for high speed cruising. Meaning it has a long travel, and is not designed for quick acceleration. Why anyone would ever try and test acceleration at the top gear, rather than down shifting is beyond me...
I feel sorry for the RS3 you have been given... Sounds like it is being abused. Is there an abused car hotline we can call?
Also, what modes are you in? More details around your modes are likely needed.
Based on that, you might be able to figure things out. However, I would certainly NEVER judge a cars performance by its 7th gear drag... what speed where you going? Why didn't you down shift? Why were you not using the correct gear for the speed you were going? The power and torque is certainly there... but if you are in the wrong gear... you certainly wont see it. Anyone who has spent this kind of money of a performance car should know that... If you don't you should ask yourself what you are doing.
Also, as an additional side note, you are only at 700 miles!! You should not be doing any "tests" on the cars much less top gear drag tests. The top end gear in most cars is strictly designed for high speed cruising. Meaning it has a long travel, and is not designed for quick acceleration. Why anyone would ever try and test acceleration at the top gear, rather than down shifting is beyond me...
I feel sorry for the RS3 you have been given... Sounds like it is being abused. Is there an abused car hotline we can call?
I'm just starting to use it a little bit after 600 miles, as recommended in the manual. I don't think testing the power at ~2000-3000 rpm a few times (after engine has reached ~ 200F ) is going to abuse anything.
My point is I don't feel the torque at < ~ 3500 rpm, whereas the Spec says it's already max at 1700 rpm. In any drive mode (Dynamic, auto or comfort).
>> Why didn't you down shift?
Forget the 7th at 2000 rpm, it was just an example. As I said already, I'm not doing this in general. In 2nd at 2000 rpm, I don't feel the torque either.
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Since I haven't received the car / manual yet, what does it specifically state re: breakin? As usual I'm hearing conflicting information / posts about what to do and what NOT to do. Basically the usual discussion / comments about how to properly break an engine in (e.g., some people here have been told by their sales person upon picking up the car that break-in isn't necessary.) Basically the drive it like you stole it philosophy which I don't completely subscribe to but I do tend to think manufacturers can be too conservative at times so interested in other comments. Thanks.
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Since I haven't received the car / manual yet, what does it specifically state re: breakin? As usual I'm hearing conflicting information / posts about what to do and what NOT to do. Basically the usual discussion / comments about how to properly break an engine in (e.g., some people here have been told by their sales person upon picking up the car that break-in isn't necessary.) Basically the drive it like you stole it philosophy which I don't completely subscribe to but I do tend to think manufacturers can be too conservative at times so interested in other comments. Thanks.
They recommend to not exceed 2/3 of the max rpm, for the first 600 miles. Then gradually increase between 600 and 1000 miles. And to be careful when the engine is cold, as usual.
But yes there is conflicting information. Some think it's no longer needed nowadays. Or engine is already broken in when/after it's built. Or RS3 be engine is "special" and no break in is needed. I don't know who to believe so just follow what the owner's manual says.
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You can download it here : https://ownersmanuals2.com/audi/a3-s...s-manual-72485. See p72.
They recommend to not exceed 2/3 of the max rpm, for the first 600 miles. Then gradually increase between 600 and 1000 miles. And to be careful when the engine is cold, as usual.
But yes there is conflicting information. Some think it's no longer needed nowadays. Or engine is already broken in when/after it's built. Or RS3 be engine is "special" and no break in is needed. I don't know who to believe so just follow what the owner's manual says.
They recommend to not exceed 2/3 of the max rpm, for the first 600 miles. Then gradually increase between 600 and 1000 miles. And to be careful when the engine is cold, as usual.
But yes there is conflicting information. Some think it's no longer needed nowadays. Or engine is already broken in when/after it's built. Or RS3 be engine is "special" and no break in is needed. I don't know who to believe so just follow what the owner's manual says.
Applies to RS Models:
"By warming up/cooling down the engine carefully, you can help reduce unnecessary strain on your vehicle when driving in a sporty style. Your vehicle also has an AFTER-RUN COOLING FEATURE (I added CAPS for emphasis) . However, cooling down is still important. The engine and the brakes as well as the exhaust system and the transmission become very hot when driving in a sporty style. Before you shut the vehicle off, you should cool down the vehicle by driving a few miles at low speeds with light acceleration."
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OK, I give up ... what the heck is that exactly?? I could NOT find any additional reference to it in the manual. I always let my turbo cars cool off before shutting the engine off but I have no idea exactly what the after-run cooling feature really is (or isn't).