2015 -2018 S3 Comparo
Abstract
The 2018 is a totally different car than the 2015, drive, feel, finish even the tires and headlights are better. It feels a lot less like a A3 with just a better motor and suspension.
This is a serious upgrade for not much more money.
First, my complaints:
- Really AUDI? Flimsy, plastic paddle shifters? I will really think I'll break them in some of my "spirited driving". Hopefully I can find some replacements.
- The weirdo, gimmicky rear turn-signals
- STILL NO TOUCH SCREEN - unbelievable
- The engine/ exhaust note is much more quiet - hopefully it gets grunt-ier as it ages.
- Not crazy about awkward shape/design of the headlight assembly
Everything else is better:
- Headlights finally work and project exactly where they should - I love the whole cluster
- Drive and feel are far more refined - Comfort mode is for reals now - feels like a Sport Suspension on an A4 now instead of a car with bad shocks
- I like the dimpled-leather on the steering wheel - much better
- The steering still has the electric-steering numbness, but not as bad - and again, the steering in comfort mode is much, much better
- The Virtual Cockpit is really distractingly fun - I had screens and menus all down on the old one - this is pretty complicated - but I like it a lot better than I thought - I love analog instruments and gauges.
- B&O is crazy good - see in thread for audiophile comments - and I really like the stock audio system (don't flame me)
More on the motor and handling after break-in.
Abstract
The 2018 is a totally different car than the 2015, drive, feel, finish even the tires and headlights are better. It feels a lot less like a A3 with just a better motor and suspension.
This is a serious upgrade for not much more money.
First, my complaints:
- Really AUDI? Flimsy, plastic paddle shifters? I will really think I'll break them in some of my "spirited driving". Hopefully I can find some replacements.
- The weirdo, gimmicky rear turn-signals
- STILL NO TOUCH SCREEN - unbelievable
- The engine/ exhaust note is much more quiet - hopefully it gets grunt-ier as it ages.
- Not crazy about awkward shape/design of the headlight assembly
Everything else is better:
- Headlights finally work and project exactly where they should - I love the whole cluster
- Drive and feel are far more refined - Comfort mode is for reals now - feels like a Sport Suspension on an A4 now instead of a car with bad shocks
- I like the dimpled-leather on the steering wheel - much better
- The steering still has the electric-steering numbness, but not as bad - and again, the steering in comfort mode is much, much better
- The Virtual Cockpit is really distractingly fun - I had screens and menus all down on the old one - this is pretty complicated - but I like it a lot better than I thought - I love analog instruments and gauges.
- B&O is crazy good - see in thread for audiophile comments - and I really like the stock audio system (don't flame me)
More on the motor and handling after break-in.
German, and luxury car makers in general, do not use touch screens for a reason. Touch screens are really not that great in a car. I would much prefer the controls most luxury cars give you in place of a touch screen.
Touch screens tend to feel cheap, not respond as well or as quickly as most would like. They also collect finger prints and oil, and over time collect just a gross feel to them. I am personally VERY glad that Audi and the rest of the German makers have steered clear of the touch screens.
Dynamic - I haven't driven really hard - feels similar to my 15 so far - but I take break-in pretty seriously, only have 85 mile on the car so far.
Rear Bias - I am really anxious to push the car with the new haldex program - one of the primary reasons I wanted to trade-in the 2015 - again, waiting till break-in is over.
Pics coming - it was the first 2018 S3 they've sold - all the sales people checked it out with me and we all thought the color was a slightly darker this year - maybe extra coat(s)?
Last edited by arU4ic; Sep 3, 2017 at 10:50 PM.
Abstract
The 2018 is a totally different car than the 2015, drive, feel, finish even the tires and headlights are better. It feels a lot less like a A3 with just a better motor and suspension.
This is a serious upgrade for not much more money.
First, my complaints:
- Really AUDI? Flimsy, plastic paddle shifters? I will really think I'll break them in some of my "spirited driving". Hopefully I can find some replacements.
- The weirdo, gimmicky rear turn-signals
- STILL NO TOUCH SCREEN - unbelievable
- The engine/ exhaust note is much more quiet - hopefully it gets grunt-ier as it ages.
- Not crazy about awkward shape/design of the headlight assembly
Everything else is better:
- Headlights finally work and project exactly where they should - I love the whole cluster
- Drive and feel are far more refined - Comfort mode is for reals now - feels like a Sport Suspension on an A4 now instead of a car with bad shocks
- I like the dimpled-leather on the steering wheel - much better
- The steering still has the electric-steering numbness, but not as bad - and again, the steering in comfort mode is much, much better
- The Virtual Cockpit is really distractingly fun - I had screens and menus all down on the old one - this is pretty complicated - but I like it a lot better than I thought - I love analog instruments and gauges.
- B&O is crazy good - see in thread for audiophile comments - and I really like the stock audio system (don't flame me)
More on the motor and handling after break-in.
I disagree with your statement about how the FL made the S3 feel less like the A3. The relative difference between the S3 and the A3 remained the same after the FL. Pretty much all the "upgrades" that you mentioned are also available on the A3.
I agree with you about the perforated steering wheel is much better than the smooth leather though. However, here in Canada, all the S-line cars (both pre-FL and FL) have always had the flat bottom perforated steering wheel, while only the pre-FL S3 gets smooth leather and only the FL S3 gets the perforated leather.
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1) The FL flat-bottom steering wheel is noticeably thinner than the pre-FL flat bottom ones ones. This has been proven by some other forums. I have personally measured and confirmed that. The pre-FL steering definitely feels better in the hand.
2) The automatic start-stop is stupid.
Other than these 2, I do think the FL cars are great. Key advantages:
1) 7-speed DSG
2) Adjustable haldex to make it somewhat more rear-biased.
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1) The FL flat-bottom steering wheel is noticeably thinner than the pre-FL flat bottom ones ones. This has been proven by some other forums. I have personally measured and confirmed that. The pre-FL steering definitely feels better in the hand.
2) The automatic start-stop is stupid.
2. Absolutely - even my 5 year-old said, "that's weird daddy". I fear it's just a matter of time until its a requirement of all cars and we won't be able to turn it off.







