A6 / S6 (C6 Platform) Discussion Discussion forum for the C6 Audi A6 produced from 2004-present and Audi S6 produced from 2007 - 2011

Misfires after new coils/plugs and now...BRAKE PAD LIGHT?!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 26, 2024 | 09:09 AM
  #1  
DudeDah's Avatar
Thread Starter
AudiWorld Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
Default Misfires after new coils/plugs and now...BRAKE PAD LIGHT?!

I guess the title tells the end of the story but there is a SURPRISE that really has me puzzled...

Backstory: "BIG SEXY" my 2008 C6 Avant is getting long in the tooth. 172,186 to be exact and is really starting to have issues. I had a CEL come on in December and from previous diagnosis thought it was time for new plugs. Got new plugs, went to install them and noticed a decent amount of oil in the spark plug wells. Buttoned it all back up and took it to a good local indy shop. Valve cover gaskets were relatively new (we've been chasing oil leaks for a bit, it's an Audi) so we figured it wasn't those. Long story slightly shorter, ended up doing cam seals/gaskets, actually did redo valve cover gaskets, brake vacuum pump gasket, spark plug tube seals, camshaft adjuster solenoid, serpentine belt tensioners and belts, idler pulley...a lot of stuff. All was good for about a week and then...oil puddle.

Took it back and diagnosis is oil filter housing and possible oil cooler gasket leak. Another $1700 but I didn't do any of that because I was frustrated and needed to think. I think I can handle the Oil cooler gasket, maybe not the housing...still thinking.

Monday of this week...CEL. Don't have a VAG COM so took it to AutoZone and codes showed cylinder misfires on 3 and 1 (which going over service records over the past few years is there have been misfires on 3 and 1 on multiple occasions) and Vacuum Pump -V22, Activation Ground (GND) - Upper Limit exceeded. Car was running fine so just keep driving it but yesterday, the BRAKE PAD WARNING LIGHT comes on. WTF?!? I look at the front pads and there seems to be PLENTY (haven't take the wheel off and put calipers the pads to see EXACTLY how much) of meat left on them. I am going to take the front wheels off and check the wires to see if they are ok but...would LOVE to hear some folks ideas on what might be going on with my car.

Thanks for reading...
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2024 | 02:44 PM
  #2  
das60's Avatar
AudiWorld Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 545
Likes: 74
Default

Get CARISTA or VAGCOM, otherwise your doing little more that throwing darts at a dart board in that car. It seems to me that you have had a major catch-up session on the cars routine oil leaks. So, if you are keeping the car, you are caught up.

Not certain which Brake light comes up - there is a difference between pad wear and the E-brake. The E-brake freaks out on mine if the battery is at the low range.

As to the misfires, if they were not present prior to the work then the first place I would look is at the wiring for the fuel injectors and an associated ground back behind the oil filter housing. Sort of a shot in the dark, but it had to be disrupted to remove the housing.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2024 | 03:51 PM
  #3  
DudeDah's Avatar
Thread Starter
AudiWorld Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks for your response.

Originally Posted by das60
Get CARISTA or VAGCOM, otherwise your doing little more that throwing darts at a dart board in that car. It seems to me that you have had a major catch-up session on the cars routine oil leaks. So, if you are keeping the car, you are caught up.
I have had a major $5K catch up session on the oil leaks but still have some work to do. The oil filter housing leaks don't look fresh so I think the puddle came from the oil cooler, also because of where the puddle was located in relation to how/where the car was parked. It happened when we were below zero here and since it has warmed up I am not seeing any puddles. I may wait until I am due for an oil change or I see more puddles before I do the cooler gasket. Unfortunately I am kinda FORCED to keep this car for a bit, which I'm GOOD with if I can get all these things, PLUS all of the suspension work that needs to be done...sorted.

Originally Posted by das60
Not certain which Brake light comes up - there is a difference between pad wear and the E-brake. The E-brake freaks out on mine if the battery is at the low range.
It was a circle with BRAKE PADS! underneath it. I have NEVER seen this warning before on either of the cars I've owned so that was a NEW ONE. I kinda felt like it might be something electrical. The warning did not appear the two times I drove the car today.

Originally Posted by das60
As to the misfires, if they were not present prior to the work then the first place I would look is at the wiring for the fuel injectors and an associated ground back behind the oil filter housing. Sort of a shot in the dark, but it had to be disrupted to remove the housing.
As I look at all my service records I see those same misfires going back a few CELs. There was just a bunch of work done in that area doing the cam-related seals/etc. as well as poking around the oil filter housing so...wiring could have gotten trampled. Should the wiring for the fuel injectors/ground be easy to locate?

Reply
Old Jan 27, 2024 | 02:45 PM
  #4  
das60's Avatar
AudiWorld Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 545
Likes: 74
Default

I would always resist the temptation to just go in a fix things on these cars. Your misfire likely show up with a fairly precise cause in VCDS or another tool.
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2024 | 06:41 AM
  #5  
sswari's Avatar
AudiWorld Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 706
Likes: 83
From: Albuquerque NM
Default

Originally Posted by das60
Your misfire likely show up with a fairly precise cause in VCDS or another tool.
Misfires can happen with and without any other indications. Carbon buildup is one of the biggest culprits, along with PCV issues.
But, I do strongly suggest getting VCDS, as it can help you in many many ways.
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2024 | 02:05 PM
  #6  
dzywicki's Avatar
AudiWorld Member
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 441
Likes: 40
From: Aldie, VA
Default

I have a 2008 A6 4.2 with 175k miles. I was chasing misfires for awhile around 170k miles. Turned out to be the fuel injectors. I did a carbon clean and fuel injector clean. Onr injector was in pretty bad shape so I replaced it. Runs smooth as butter now.
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2024 | 06:53 AM
  #7  
DudeDah's Avatar
Thread Starter
AudiWorld Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by dzywicki
I have a 2008 A6 4.2 with 175k miles. I was chasing misfires for awhile around 170k miles. Turned out to be the fuel injectors. I did a carbon clean and fuel injector clean. Onr injector was in pretty bad shape so I replaced it. Runs smooth as butter now.
I have had the carbon cleaning done approximately 12,000 miles ago, how long does a carbon cleaning last? I am wondering if injectors might be the cause of my misfires.
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2024 | 06:59 AM
  #8  
DudeDah's Avatar
Thread Starter
AudiWorld Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by das60
Get CARISTA or VAGCOM...
GOT ONE! Thanks for the mention of the CARISTA, I hadn't even heard of that one and wasn't sure I wanted to plunk down all that cash for a VAG COM. I ran the diagnostics and here is what it came back with. Would GREATLY appreciate your input on the findings of the CARISTA. The misfires are dated back in December which is when I had all of the seals/gaskets/coils/plugs done. Not sure if the codes just weren't cleared but, those same misfires go back a while so wondering if injectors may be a problem in those cylinders (?). I had a Carbon Cleaning done ~12,000 miles ago.

I am grasping at straws because, I don't know what I'm doing really ☺️.Basic OBD2:
P0303 (Confirmed) - Cylinder 3 Misfire Detected



Engine:

P0300 - Random/Multiple Cylinder: Misfire Detected

P0301 - Cyl.1: Misfire Detected

P0303 - Cyl.3: Misfire Detected

P0456 - EVAP Emission Contr. Sys. (very small Leak): Leak Detected

P2070 - Intake Manifold Tuning (IMT) Valve Stuck Open



Transmission:

P1890 - Signal wire for Tiptronic: electrical error



ABS:

00473 - Electronic Parking Brake Control Module -J540-: Please read DTC



Parking brake:

02443 - Operating unit: Electrical error in circuit



Infotainment display:

01964 - Memory Seat Control Module / steering column adjustment: No signal/communication



Digital radio:

02635 - Tuner not enabled/activated

00446 - Function limitation due to insufficient voltage: Lower limit not reached



Sound system:

02558 - Left rear mid-bass speaker: Open circuit



Heater & air conditioning:

01087 - Basic setting not performed: no or incorrect basic setting/adaptation

00256 - Sensor for refrigerant pressure/temperature: No signal/communication



Body/convenience system:

01134 - Alarm horn: Electrical error in circuit



Driver's door:

02115 - Lock unit for central locking: Implausible signal



Front passenger's door:

02115 - Lock unit for central locking: Implausible signal

02116 - Mirror adjustment motor: Short circuit to ground



Trunk:

00317 - Rear lid control module: Implausible signal



Battery regulator:

02272 - Static current stage 1

02273 - Static current stage 2

02274 - Static current stage 3

02276 - Static current stage 5

02277 - Static current stage 6
Reply
AudiWorld Stories

Bringing Audi to Life for Audi Fans

story-0

New Audi A6 Allroad Is The Market's Coolest Wagon: 9 Things to Know

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

10 Strangest Audi Designs That Actually Made Production

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Audi Q7 and SQ7: Audi Upgraded EVERYTHING!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Audi Unveils Absurdly Cool New Supercar: 10 Things You Need to Know!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

The Highs & Lows of Every Audi C-Class Generation

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Most Expensive Audis Ever Sold on Bring-A-Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-6

10 Audi Features & Options We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Audi Recreates Crazy-Looking Speed Record Breaker From 1935

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Coachbuilder Recreates the 1995 Audi TTS Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Every Audi V10 Car Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jan 30, 2024 | 02:36 PM
  #9  
AudiAllTheWay's Avatar
AudiWorld Senior Member
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,940
Likes: 472
From: Canada
Default

Injector Service along with a new fuel filter is likely due but you could first try an injection cleaner fuel additive to see if it helps with the misfires.



Reply
Old Jan 30, 2024 | 02:47 PM
  #10  
DudeDah's Avatar
Thread Starter
AudiWorld Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by AudiAllTheWay
Injector Service along with a new fuel filter is likely due but you could first try an injection cleaner fuel additive to see if it helps with the misfires.
Thanks for your response. That fuel additive seems like an easy first place to start, will order a bottle.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Str8crusin
Q7 MK 1 Discussion
1
Nov 7, 2018 06:21 AM
das60
A6 / S6 (C6 Platform) Discussion
0
Sep 8, 2018 10:16 AM
Komaha
A6 / S6 (C5 Platform) Discussion
10
Jan 13, 2014 10:24 AM
asisin
A4 (B6 Platform) Discussion
2
Dec 29, 2009 10:12 AM
chasA4
A4 (B5 Platform) Discussion
21
Sep 13, 2006 10:29 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:23 PM.

story-0
New Audi A6 Allroad Is The Market's Coolest Wagon: 9 Things to Know

Slideshow: Audi's latest A6 Allroad gets RS-style fenders, real off-road hardware, and enough personality to stand out in a market obsessed with crossovers.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-16 17:31:52


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Strangest Audi Designs That Actually Made Production

Slideshow: 10 strangest Audi designs that actually made production

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-10 16:32:29


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Audi Q7 and SQ7: Audi Upgraded EVERYTHING!

Slideshow: Everything you need to know about the 2027 Audi Q7 and SQ7

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-09 06:02:56


VIEW MORE
story-3
Audi Unveils Absurdly Cool New Supercar: 10 Things You Need to Know!

Slideshow: Limited to just 499 units, the 987-horsepower halo car signals a new chapter for Audi performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-04 17:37:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
The Highs & Lows of Every Audi C-Class Generation

Slideshow: The highs and lows of every Audi C-Class generation.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:05:50


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Most Expensive Audis Ever Sold on Bring-A-Trailer

People were more than happy to shell out big bucks for these cars.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 15:32:23


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Audi Features & Options We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: 10 Audi features and options we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 19:33:47


VIEW MORE
story-7
Audi Recreates Crazy-Looking Speed Record Breaker From 1935

Slideshow: Audi has recreated one of the wildest machines of the pre-war speed-record era, reviving a streamlined V16 racer that originally exceeded 200 mph in 1935.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:49:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
Coachbuilder Recreates the 1995 Audi TTS Concept

Slideshow: A Dutch coachbuilder has reimagined the original Audi TT by finishing what the 1995 concept only hinted at.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-05 15:17:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
Every Audi V10 Car Ranked!

Slideshow: Ranking every Audi V10 road car

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:11:56


VIEW MORE