Q5/SQ5 MKI (8R) Discussion Discussion forum for the First Generation Audi Q5 SUV produced from 2008 to 2017

How much coolant loss with "bad" PCV

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 23, 2024 | 02:21 PM
  #1  
slowSQ5's Avatar
Thread Starter
AudiWorld Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Default How much coolant loss with "bad" PCV

I previously had rough idle when my car threw a P052E00 for the PCV in 2021 - the dealer replaced only the breather hose as it was an extended warranty job. No issues until the past month

ran VCDS on my 2016 audi sq5 and have the following:20136 - PCV Valve Malfunction
P052E 00 [01100000] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 84783 km
Date: 2024.09.05

My coolant was at the min level when it got serviced 9/12 and was told to replace the PCV. No sources of coolant loss was found anywhere by the tech.

The coolant level is already down to min 10 days later and i'm not seeing any coolant under the s/c - the waterpump - coolant hoses that i can visually inspect myself.

The car currently runs great - no CEL - no rough idle etc

Question: Does this really sound like a bad PCV? Would the one Intermittent code be enough to go "a ha - that's it" Anywhere else i should look to determine coolant loss? I really hope ist not cracked and letting coolant into the oil/engine but no way to check without draining it

thoughts?


edit: For anyone reading this going Hey i have same issue! here's the update:
1. searched high and low for any sign of coolant for atleast an hour while car running/up to temp/heat on. nothing.
2. car automatically cleared the 'soft code' after X amount of days and hasn't coem back. As stated below, that code is more for the valve for the breather hose - most likely was stuck for a hot second - going to use some lubricant to free up any gunk. car runs normally.
3. low coolant issue - had the car looked at by the audi mechanic - they also found no signs of leakage and the pressure test (~3 hours they said) found no issues as well/level didn't decrease.

My take aways: i live in colorado and use this car mostly for my mountain adventures - my only conclusion is the high elevation and hotter than normal year has caused some evaporation.

Last edited by slowSQ5; Oct 2, 2024 at 05:47 AM. Reason: updating with findings
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2024 | 08:17 AM
  #2  
AudiAllTheWay's Avatar
AudiWorld Senior Member
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,940
Likes: 472
From: Canada
Default

If coolant is entering the oil then beige foamy sludge should begin to appear on the inside of the oil fill cap opening. Obviously stop driving and repair if you see this.

Since you looked top side and found nothing then pull the lower engine cover and look around from underneath for coolant loss. You should see pink and white track marks from leaking coolant. Look close into the left front corner of the bumper cover as the electric pump and several hose connections live there. I once had a slow coolant leak on a 3.0T at the front lower cooler connection that was not visible until I pulled the front bumper cover.

I think you have 2 separate issues. Your mileage is low enough that the PCV Oil Separator *should* not have failed. The P052E DTC is not the PCV itself but rather an air line with an ECU actuated valve connected back to the intake. You could try a suck and blow test on the rubber hose attached to the backside of the intake tube on the firewall side. Mine had air flowing in both directions so my valve was stuck open at 60,000KM and produced P052E DTC. I simply sprayed a couple shots of quality inert lubricating penetrant into the rubber tube connected to the valve and it freed up the piston. I have yet to test drive and confirm as I have it apart for other work atm.

Check here for more P052E info:

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q5-...04%5D-3026579/
Reply
Old Sep 26, 2024 | 08:33 AM
  #3  
slowSQ5's Avatar
Thread Starter
AudiWorld Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Default

thank you! I still need to look under the engine myself - but after replacing my rear brakes i noticed the code is entirely gone. I'm assuming since it never showed back up/was confirmed the car auto cleared it after 20 days of driving. Car still drives beautifully/no rough idle. There is strong vacuum when removing the oil fill cap - unsure if that is good or bad...as i'm unsure how strong the vacuum (which it should!) feel. Probably a bad 'test' people spout on the forums.

It's all very confusing - thanks for the details!
Reply
Old Sep 26, 2024 | 08:35 AM
  #4  
slowSQ5's Avatar
Thread Starter
AudiWorld Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by AudiAllTheWay
I think you have 2 separate issues. Your mileage is low enough that the PCV Oil Separator *should* not have failed. The P052E DTC is not the PCV itself but rather an air line with an ECU actuated valve connected back to the intake. You could try a suck and blow test on the rubber hose attached to the backside of the intake tube on the firewall side. /
I'd need more information to do this test as i'm unsure which of the many vacuum lines it would be...i assume do it while the car isn't running haha.'

edit: i'm an idiot - the literal plastic intake tube that connects to TB - the one tube connected on firewall side. as FYI for other dummies like me

double edit: did suck/blow test - could blow/suck no problem. assuming thats an issue?

Last edited by slowSQ5; Sep 26, 2024 at 09:44 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 26, 2024 | 11:31 AM
  #5  
AudiAllTheWay's Avatar
AudiWorld Senior Member
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,940
Likes: 472
From: Canada
Default

Yes that is an issue. You have confirmed the piston on the ECU controlled valve is stuck open.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
algava67
S4 (B9 Platform) Discussion
2
Aug 28, 2024 04:12 PM
itzjohnny
Audi A5 / S5 / RS5 (B9)
1
Jun 8, 2024 07:55 AM
Phenomenon01
A4 (B9 Platform) Discussion
11
Nov 27, 2023 05:26 AM
guzzijake
30v V6 Discussion
1
May 19, 2007 03:33 AM
sissupr
S4 / RS4 (B5 Platform) Discussion
4
Jun 23, 2003 07:38 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:37 PM.

story-0
New Audi A6 Allroad Is The Market's Coolest Wagon: 9 Things to Know

Slideshow: Audi's latest A6 Allroad gets RS-style fenders, real off-road hardware, and enough personality to stand out in a market obsessed with crossovers.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-16 17:31:52


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Strangest Audi Designs That Actually Made Production

Slideshow: 10 strangest Audi designs that actually made production

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-10 16:32:29


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Audi Q7 and SQ7: Audi Upgraded EVERYTHING!

Slideshow: Everything you need to know about the 2027 Audi Q7 and SQ7

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-09 06:02:56


VIEW MORE
story-3
Audi Unveils Absurdly Cool New Supercar: 10 Things You Need to Know!

Slideshow: Limited to just 499 units, the 987-horsepower halo car signals a new chapter for Audi performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-04 17:37:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
The Highs & Lows of Every Audi C-Class Generation

Slideshow: The highs and lows of every Audi C-Class generation.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:05:50


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Most Expensive Audis Ever Sold on Bring-A-Trailer

People were more than happy to shell out big bucks for these cars.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 15:32:23


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Audi Features & Options We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: 10 Audi features and options we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 19:33:47


VIEW MORE
story-7
Audi Recreates Crazy-Looking Speed Record Breaker From 1935

Slideshow: Audi has recreated one of the wildest machines of the pre-war speed-record era, reviving a streamlined V16 racer that originally exceeded 200 mph in 1935.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:49:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
Coachbuilder Recreates the 1995 Audi TTS Concept

Slideshow: A Dutch coachbuilder has reimagined the original Audi TT by finishing what the 1995 concept only hinted at.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-05 15:17:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
Every Audi V10 Car Ranked!

Slideshow: Ranking every Audi V10 road car

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:11:56


VIEW MORE