Hmm my SP8000's handled Chicago's winter really well..
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Hmm my SP8000's handled Chicago's winter really well..
Im not saying they were fantastic, but the only time i experienced slippage was when i powered into an uphill turn in icy conditions, and all i did was let off the throttle to regain traction.
I drive very gently in the winter, but i do get drive fast (in max speed) on highways and the like.
I had a blast after a heavy snowfall and my girlfriend forced me to a mall at like 9:00am on a Saturday, i had a whole unplowed parking lot to play in, and man did i play, throwing my car around, powering through the drifts, it was beyond fun!
Also the SP8000's handle rain VERY well. I was in an absolute torrential downpour in Pittsburgh this past summer, cars were pulling over and sitting it out, but i was more than fine, never hydroplaned or anything, car was incredibly surefooted.
Makes me think that i can go with a high performance all season tire and be happy with that. Not disputing the others here, just my observations. Im not someone who will keep a winter set of tires/rims (at least not at this stage in my life) that is what Quattro is for, IMHO. Of course you tone down your driving, but i still drive 8/10th's what i do in summer in winter.
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I drive very gently in the winter, but i do get drive fast (in max speed) on highways and the like.
I had a blast after a heavy snowfall and my girlfriend forced me to a mall at like 9:00am on a Saturday, i had a whole unplowed parking lot to play in, and man did i play, throwing my car around, powering through the drifts, it was beyond fun!
Also the SP8000's handle rain VERY well. I was in an absolute torrential downpour in Pittsburgh this past summer, cars were pulling over and sitting it out, but i was more than fine, never hydroplaned or anything, car was incredibly surefooted.
Makes me think that i can go with a high performance all season tire and be happy with that. Not disputing the others here, just my observations. Im not someone who will keep a winter set of tires/rims (at least not at this stage in my life) that is what Quattro is for, IMHO. Of course you tone down your driving, but i still drive 8/10th's what i do in summer in winter.
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It's a false sense of security...
try to meet up with someone near you who has a full set of snows (when it's snowing of course). The amount of control you have with the snows in foul weather makes any high perf. tire seem like ice skates.
I can see where the dunlops would be fun in an empty parking lot, but that's exactly what a snow tire is designed to avoid (among other things...rocks, trees, other cars, curbs, ditches, etc.).
Here's a bad analogy...when it snows, do you walk around outside with your dress shoes on? It would probably help a lot if someone gave you a pair of crutches (quattro) to help you along, but in the end, boots are a better bet.
If you're happy with them, that's great...as you pointed out, you can get by with them, provided you drive VERY carefully, however for those opposed to white knuckled commutes, snow tires give you as much confidence in snow and ice as Sameer noted in the rain.
I can see where the dunlops would be fun in an empty parking lot, but that's exactly what a snow tire is designed to avoid (among other things...rocks, trees, other cars, curbs, ditches, etc.).
Here's a bad analogy...when it snows, do you walk around outside with your dress shoes on? It would probably help a lot if someone gave you a pair of crutches (quattro) to help you along, but in the end, boots are a better bet.
If you're happy with them, that's great...as you pointed out, you can get by with them, provided you drive VERY carefully, however for those opposed to white knuckled commutes, snow tires give you as much confidence in snow and ice as Sameer noted in the rain.
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SP8000 sucks.
it came with my M Roadster. yes, no quattro, but the tires sucks. handles poorly in dry, and terrible in wet. snow? i don't think so. how can u run a performance tire in snow? if someone run into you, or the reverse, what does your insurance company say about u running a set of tire without M/S rating? correct me if i am wrong about it not having a mud and snow rating.
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