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Old May 29, 2002 | 02:05 PM
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Default Anyone experienced w. the Goodyear high perf ice tire?

I mean the german-made V/Z-rated ice tire(GW). I'm looking for a snow tire that gives nothing up for dry roads (the Dunlop3 isn't available in US).
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Old May 29, 2002 | 03:51 PM
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Default A snow tire that gives up nothing on dry roads ...

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is asking the impossible.

Aside from a different tread compound, it's the heavily siped tread that gives these winter tires most of their traction on snow and ice; and the Goodyear GW is heavily siped. These tires just cannot have the tread block stability of an unsiped high performance dry/summer tire. I'm generally very pleased with my Pirelli 210's, but I can definitely feel the tread squirming around at high cornering g's on dry roads.

Sorry,
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Old May 29, 2002 | 05:54 PM
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Old May 30, 2002 | 12:40 AM
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You're asking too much from a snow tire. The Blizzak LM is an excellent peformer, though.
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Old May 30, 2002 | 06:09 AM
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Default Let me ask it another way...

The carcass of a snow tire is typically way too soft for handling, but it allows it to conform to rough surfaces better. The compounding (ice/multitube/etc.) is also way too soft for cornering at summer temps, so that it works well at lower temps.

All understood. What I need is something like the old Pirelli pre-ice winter tires (with the asm rally pattern), but they are no longer made except in an obscure and incompatible size. The tire I am looking for would have a proper performance carcass and sidewall stiffener, with just a decent tread. Even the high perf. Yok tire would work, but it also is unavailable in the 205/55/16 size. The Dunlop 3 snow would work, but it too is unavailable.

The BFG KDW would be perfect, but they are on natl. backorder until fall.
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Old May 30, 2002 | 07:58 AM
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Michelin Pilot Alpin and Blizzak LM-22 are excellent snows that do well in the dry, for a snow.
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Old May 30, 2002 | 08:22 AM
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Default Now I'm confused ...

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The BFG KDW is not even an all-season tire, and it's certainly not a winter/ice tire. If they were available, did plan on using these in snow !!??

Also, be careful when using carcass stiffness as a criteria. A tire can be stiff in three different direction -- vertical, lateral, and longitudinal -- and there's pros & cons to being stiff or soft in each.
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Old May 30, 2002 | 09:32 AM
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Default KDWS available from TR - just mounted a set on A6 and they are a major improvement

over the stock Michelins. I can't tell you about bad weather performance (yet) but I expect the BFG's to exceed the performance of the Michelins - that said, I'm considering a straight snow tire for my stock rims.
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Called yesterday, national backorder until the fall in that size.
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