Michelin Pilot Sport A/S or Goodyear F1 GS-D3?
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Michelin Pilot Sport A/S or Goodyear F1 GS-D3?
B6 Avant, 16" wheels, stock suspension. I have a set of snows (Dunlop WinterSport M3), so just need 3-season tires.
Both the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S and Goodyear F1 GS-D3 get raves from everybody, but they never get compared since they're in different classes. How would they compare?
Both the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S and Goodyear F1 GS-D3 get raves from everybody, but they never get compared since they're in different classes. How would they compare?
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For a high performance tire, they are relatively quiet, comfortable, wear well, good turn in, and moderate barking at limits. That doesn't compare to an A/S tire. Quiet for a high performance doesn't mean the same as quiet for a high mileage all-season. That's my point.
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Hmm.. I didnt' mean silly in a negative way.. should have included: :-p
As pete mentioned, the A/S should win for treadwear, I guess my response was more as to performance.
Another good tire if treadwear is an issue is the Falken St-115. That's a more comfortable summer tire in terms of ride quality, noise, and wear. The best part is when they wear out, you won't mind too much since they are quite inexpensive :-)
Another good tire if treadwear is an issue is the Falken St-115. That's a more comfortable summer tire in terms of ride quality, noise, and wear. The best part is when they wear out, you won't mind too much since they are quite inexpensive :-)
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An example from TireRack's braking tests ...
The Pilot Sport A/S doesn't get tested against the F1 GS-D3, but both tires have been compared against the Pilot Sport.
1. On a Lexus IS300, the Pilot Sport A/S can decelerate at 0.94 g, and the Pilot Sport at 1.03 g.
2. In a different test but also on a Lexus IS300, both the F1 GS-D3 and the Pilot Sport can decelerate at 1.04 g.
I think it's save to say that the Pilot Sport A/S will require about 10% longer stopping distances than the F1 GS-D3, and that's a huge difference. If it was me, I'd choose the F1 GS-D3 for my summer tire.
And if you do go with the F1 GS-D3, I think you'll find the performance difference so much better than your Dunlop M3's that you'll start thinking about replacing the dedicated winter tire with the Pilot Sport A/S. As much as I like my Pirelli 210's in the snow, I'm think of replacing them with the Michelin A/S for the same reason.
1. On a Lexus IS300, the Pilot Sport A/S can decelerate at 0.94 g, and the Pilot Sport at 1.03 g.
2. In a different test but also on a Lexus IS300, both the F1 GS-D3 and the Pilot Sport can decelerate at 1.04 g.
I think it's save to say that the Pilot Sport A/S will require about 10% longer stopping distances than the F1 GS-D3, and that's a huge difference. If it was me, I'd choose the F1 GS-D3 for my summer tire.
And if you do go with the F1 GS-D3, I think you'll find the performance difference so much better than your Dunlop M3's that you'll start thinking about replacing the dedicated winter tire with the Pilot Sport A/S. As much as I like my Pirelli 210's in the snow, I'm think of replacing them with the Michelin A/S for the same reason.
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about those Dunlop WinterSport M3s...
...even the Pirelli P6 Four Seasons that came with the car feel quick by comparison. The M3s are plenty quiet and plush, but steering response is like calling down to the engine room and waiting for more steam from the boiler. But that's OK...they're good in the snow (I'm north of Boston) and changing back to the summer tires is part of the arrival of Spring.
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