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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Default Why is it that when you put stiffer springs in the rear is gets rid of understeer?

How does that work?
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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less weight transfer to the rear?
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Default More info than you requested....but what the heck..

<ul><li><a href="http://www.rogerkrausracing.com/overundr.html">More info on how to help with handling...</a></li></ul>
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Default quicker weight transfer at the rear

In a neutral handling car, increase the spring rate on either front or rear and that end will lose traction first. Compliance in the suspension system determines how quickly weight is transferred. In a corner, stiffer rear springs would cause the weight to transfer to the rear outside wheel faster than the front outside wheel, thereby causing more oversteer.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 11:59 PM
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Default Note: you can have a neutral handling car that is still sprung quite softly, in which case

increasing the stiffness of one end of the car can increase the grip, up to a point.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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Nice writeup. Thanks.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Default Some of it doesn't apply to front drive cars......

Understeer on initial turn will = more and more understeer as you progress through the corner.
FWD cars have to loose as hell! Then all you do is balance the rear with the throttle (throttle steer)!
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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Default Alters relative roll stiffness front vs. rear.

AFAIK

A stiffer rear spring will decrease grip at the rear and increase grip at the front.

Heavier springrate at the rear will create greater roll stiffness at the rear. Greater roll stiffness means greater weight transfer at that particular pair of wheels. Greater weight transfer means less grip due to tire load sensitivity.

Total weight transfer is unaffected by roll stiffness and since the rears will now have more transfer, the fronts will have less. With less weight transfer at teh fronts, there will be more grip, again due to tire load sensitivity.

(Tire load sensitivity is a characteristic where the greater the load placed on a tire, the lower its frictional coefficient.)
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Roger Kraus mostly races RWD cars... :-)
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