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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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Default Well I don't have ABS anymore, is that going to be any kind of issue for the track?

I'm not so worried about locking the tires up. I just remember hearing that its easier to spin a car without ABS and that ABS helps to keep the car in a straight line.

Think I'm going to run into any issues?
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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The steering wheel helps keep the car in a straight line.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 04:43 AM
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Default Learn how to threshold brake...

with out abs the amount of traction is the same, but you will have alittle more control(some cars are diff then others). if your going to spin maybe its not abs you need...
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 05:35 AM
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haha
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 05:44 AM
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No abs is better for the track but be careful on the street.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 06:07 AM
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Default The first thing you're going to have to overcome is the bias.

Are you running stock brakes or an aftermarket front and/or rear? You'll have to balance the bias via piston sizes in the caliper and through pad selection.

Second, you'll never be able to brake as well as the ABS system, especially in bad weather, but you will teach yourself a lot about brake modulation and driving at the threshold. As far as keeping the car straight... unless you have some crazy bump steer issues you should be fine.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Default Real men don't drive ABS

j/k of course, but ABS makes for lazy braking habits as you can just stand on the brakes and let the ABS do the work of keeping the wheels rolling. You'll develop a much better feel for the brakes in a non-ABS car.

As for keeping the car in a straight line, just make sure you can keep the from locking up the wheels before you get into heavy trail braking. Your bigger worry in the near term is flatspotting your tires while you get used to the adjustment, not losing control.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Default Fast guys drive w/ ABS ;)

If you don't believe me just look at the WCGT race @ Mosport
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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Default First few times out on the track, use tires you can afford to trash

cause you're going to flat spot them. Save your expensive tires for later.

Then, take some runs down a straight and brake hard. Have a friend watch (and listen to) the tires to see if they are locking up, and, if so, which wheels (front or back). Maybe you can adjust brake bias.

But, if you can't or don't want to adjust the brake bias, the driver can still learn and adjust.

If it's always the back locking up, you need more traction back there. Squeeze on the brakes more slowly and gently, so more weight stays in the back of the car. If it's always the fronts locking up, you can afford to hit the brakes a bit harder.
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Default did you keep abs?

or is that long gone?
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