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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 02:59 AM
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Default 'Hitler's' race car.

<center><img src="http://i.cnn.net/money/2006/12/04/autos/hitler_auto_union/auto_union_front.03.jpg"></center><p>A 1939 Auto Union 'Type-D' is set to become the most expensive car ever sold at auction.<ul><li><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/12/04/hitler_auto_union/index.html">http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/12/04/hitler_auto_union/index.html</a</li></ul>
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Default Not to sound like Marge Schott, but it was/is an amazing accomplishment.

I have a 1:16 model of that car and the R8, and in some ways, the R8 is a simpler machine!
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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Default Someone has recently dubbed them that...probably because they're an idiot...

The history of them is well-known..and has been for a long time...I think Hans Stuck Sr. had some success in them, among others...but I've NEVER heard them referred to as "Hitler's race car" before.

Idiots.
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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Default how many of those are left

i thought i rembered somebody telling me that audi ahd the only one left on display at the factory in ingolstod? they were probably wrong, cant imagine them selling something like that.
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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Default The moniker is fairly accurate...

Hitler wanted a race car that would demonstrate Germany's technical prowess. Obviously it had to be the fastest and most durable racecar in the world. If I remember correctly, it was built at Hitler's urging.

Just because one is a fan of auto union that doesn't mean you're a fan of Hitler. I have several auto union posters but the wife won't let me display the ones with **** flags on them. She doesn't understand but I'm not willing to fight her on it.
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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It's one of two...the other is in a museum in Riga, Latvia.
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 05:48 AM
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Disagree.
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 06:21 AM
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Default Actually this car was literally Hitler's race car.

"In February 2007, a Auto Union D Type from Adolf Hitler will be sold by Christie's in Paris. The 1939 Auto Union D-Type, thought to be one of only two in existence, was created by Ferdinand Porsche after a personal request from Hitler. It is expected to become the most expensive car ever sold at auction."

Saying you disagree is kind of like saying the world is flat.<ul><li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_Union#The_Auto_Union_racing_cars">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_Union#The_Auto_Union_racing_cars</a</li></ul>
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 06:31 AM
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Default Another interesting tidbit...

The type-D is the first race car on record to use data logging. Apparently the engineers didn't trust the new drivers after Rosemeyer died.


"Without anyone at Auto Union comparable to Mercedes' chief engineer, Rudolf Uhlenhaut who could drive his cars at race speeds, Eberan adopted a trucker's 24-hour tachograph to monitor the cars performance while it was being driven by one of the works drivers. "Isidor" as the drivers dubbed it, was called a cockpit spy. The device, heavily modified by Eberan and an associate by the name of Kienzle, could record revs, speeds, shift points, brake pressures and acceleration/deceleration all on a paper disk. For security the device could not be opened without a key; of which Eberan von Eberhorst had the sole copy!"
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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Default Too much of a stretch...

...and, as I said, up until last week, no one has ever referred to the A-U race cars as "Hitler's cars".

To quote the CNN article -

"In 1933, after becoming chancellor of Germany, Hitler offered 500,000 reichmarks for a company to design a race car to show off the nation's technological prowess. Originally, Mercedes-Benz got the nod. But Ferdinand Porsche, then an engineer working with Auto Union, which today is known as Audi, was able to secure some of that financing to build a revolutionary car he had designed."

German government offers a subsidy for somebody to build an uber-car. A-U grabs a bit of that money. How does that translate to "Hitler's car". It denegrates or 'colors' the achievements of the A-U engineers and builders.

Nobody every refers to the Mercedes record-setting streamliners etc. of that period as "Hitler's Silver Arrows".

Although buried away, the A-U cars have a well-documented history. Nobody ever referred to them as "Hitler's cars" before. It's a bull**** label, by an idiotic writer.
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