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Old 08-13-2014, 06:48 AM   #1
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The dash is a waste of space and I want to see more. I am always changing the DIS menus and always switching between menus on the screen. I want to see the artist on XM but I can only see it if I switch to "radio", the DIS only shows the channel. The speedometer and Tach is a waste of space, there is far more information to be had on the DIS and it has 25% of the real estate of the gauges. I can have a speed indication on the DIS under digital speedometer and in the lap time plus a monster gauge, it's unnecessary.

I think I read somewhere that Audi are producing a software configurable dash that you can save as your user as in a GUI? A great idea that I'm surprised has taken so long.
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I love the speedo and tach on my A6. In fact, I love the whole layout and functionality with the screen in between. I do wish the DIS radio menu would default to Presets, and the DIS phone menu would default to recent calls.
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Have you tried looking at that big screen sticking up to your right while driving?

Has lots of info on it. The speedo/tach area is for pertinent driving details.
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Don't get me wrong, I think the dash is great looking too but it needs to be customizable. Your preferences are different to mine, E.G. phones are an annoyance of modern society and I rarely use it in the car so its menu is low priority to me. The speedometer is great looking , as you say, but when I'm in cruise control for 40 miles, I don't need that amount of real estate telling me that , yes, I'm still doing 70.
With a screen built the same size as our present screen then we could modify what, how big, what shape etc. we want to look at. It would still have the same classy surround and look but would require way less button pushing to see what ever anybody wants to view. It would not be necessary to not see your Lap timer in the display just because you want to monitor Lane Assist.
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The dash is a waste of space
Are you talking the entire dash layout (door to door) design (use of wood, etc.) or just the utilization of the instrument cluster/DIS and MMI screen areas? I like the dash itself and am not so concerned about the issues you raise; I just want to clarify. Thanks.
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Have you tried looking at that big screen sticking up to your right while driving?

Has lots of info on it. The speedo/tach area is for pertinent driving details.
Yes, I tried looking at that big screen. I want to see the radio and the maps not radio OR the maps. (Same reason I have two monitors on my computer).

My original post I was thinking more along the lines of the DIS but, now that you mention it, some of my proposal applies to that "big screen sticking up to your right" too.

The speedo and tach could be simple bar displays around something else instead of a needle around a big black hole.
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Are you talking the entire dash layout (door to door) design (use of wood, etc.) or just the utilization of the instrument cluster/DIS and MMI screen areas? I like the dash itself and am not so concerned about the issues you raise; I just want to clarify. Thanks.
Sorry if I wasn't clear: just the ability to see the information that is presently available without having to press so many buttons. The speedo/tach/DIS pod and the pop up display would keep the same physical look but the information displayed would be user customizable.
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In sales you learn that no product is right for everybody. Two people can have completely different reactions to the same item. I love the dash and layout myself. I find it very natural and intuitive.
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In sales you learn that no product is right for everybody. Two people can have completely different reactions to the same item. I love the dash and layout myself. I find it very natural and intuitive.
I agree, that is why every GUI on every computer has user definable sizes and positions for desktop widgets. If all operating systems do it then it only seems logical to do it for a dashboard, if they did then your observation regarding sales would be a mute point as everybody could configure to their own priorities.

If it was done using the present look for hardware, fit, finish etc. what is there not to like?
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I agree, I wish that while I had maps open that there would be a "ticker" at the top of the MMI screen that would tell me the artist and the name of the song that I was listening to.
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I agree, I wish that while I had maps open that there would be a "ticker" at the top of the MMI screen that would tell me the artist and the name of the song that I was listening to.
The Germans don't have XM so they never thought of it.

I want the trip computer, lane assist and lap timer. Because the lap timer has a speed indication then you could use the whole space of the speedometer dial for something useful.
I know everybody has their own preferences as to what they would want on their pages so allowing you to save 5 pages would allow for everyone to save various preferences. By law you must have a speed indication so that would show up irrelevant of your choices but it need only be a relatively small digital display, using 33% of the space available just for speed indication is very 1960's.
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The speedo and tach could be simple bar displays around something else instead of a needle around a big black hole.
I would hate for it to be bars. One of the few classic looks remaining inside modern cars are the speedo and tach needles around a big black hole with numbers.
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Old 08-14-2014, 03:21 AM   #14
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Thanks for the videos, I knew that I had seen them somewhere. It seems that the new UI is to eliminate the pop-up screen and it doesn't solve the problem of constantly switching between menus. Doing all that in the demo of the TT while driving is nuts. My proposal was to eliminate the incessant need to keep changing menus by having more information constantly in front of you, that way you only have to move your eyes and not keep using the **** and buttons to see information that should always be available to the eye. If, however, you need to scroll through the folders in the juke box, for example, then by all means allow for the full menu to be exposed.
What would you all think if you had to select the fuel gauge every time that you wanted to check the fuel amount remaining? It's a dumb idea but it is an example of what I'm proposing, put more of the data that you consistently want on a display and make it configurable.
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For me - having an analog speedometer and tachometer was a draw to get the A6. It is becoming unique to see that, and it gives it a much more sporty feel- particularly the '3D' layout of these analog meters. Yes- the digital reconstructions of these are impressive and give you much more flexibility in what is displayed and how big it is displayed.

However, it is nice to occasionally turn the DIS off and tuck the screen away and not have a an LED or LCD screen in you face.

That being said- I do love the DIS and think it is much less obtrusive than displays in other cars (and honestly was in awe the fist time I saw turn by turn navigation in the DIS). It is also very intuitive, I had it all figured out on my 6 mile ride home after purchasing the car (I bought it used from a Mercedes dealer so never got a tutorial).

I do understand the frustration of having to switch through menus on the flip out screen to get HD radio information if you want navigation on at the same time. Ir would be nice to either have a mini-window in Navigation with whatever audio is playing or the DIS provide more audio details, or the options to customize this, but for me this is less of a nuisance than some other A6 quirks (like the brick key fob) none of which make me regret the car!
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In terms of user interface, mine is minimal: I rarely ever change what’s shown on the DIS nor do I wish I could see more things.
The one thing that annoys me is that when I select a new destination on my MMI screen and controller the DIS switches to NAV information which I do not need in that location, since it is already on the big easy to read screen. I then have to manually set the DIS back to big digital speedometer – not a big deal, but annoying.
I see your point re: the fuel gauge. I don’t see why that could not be one of the items to be selected in the DIS like the onboard computer for mpg and the energy efficiency functions are. Perhaps there could be an alarm that would warn you when there is less than a certain amount of gas in the tank or miles until empty, so you can then select “fuel level” in the DIS and check things out before running out.
Overall, I like my A6’s dash, MMI screen/controls and DIS but I have few informational needs and use phone like once a month, so I guess I am not typical.

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It'll be interesting to see how user-configurable these new screens will be
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