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My worst fear came true. My 2012 A6 oil consumption killed my catalytic convertor
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Why Laugh?
LOL, this statement makes me laugh. No car is guaranteed to last. Doesn't matter the brand. I had two BMW 5 series, including a '97 and neither made it past 110,000 miles when they needed significant work
My last car was a Volvo S60R - Vovlo's have a reputation for lasting long - I really liked it but had a ton of work done on it over the years (most under warranty) and at 127K miles it needed more work on it than it was worth
BMWs are not built to last longer than any other car out there. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you do not
My last car was a Volvo S60R - Vovlo's have a reputation for lasting long - I really liked it but had a ton of work done on it over the years (most under warranty) and at 127K miles it needed more work on it than it was worth
BMWs are not built to last longer than any other car out there. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you do not
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Default Repair and TSB Info -- Oil Consumption, Transmission Error Msg., MMI Screen Jerking
A couple take-aways from a recent service visit that might be helpful to others:
1) The car was asking for another quart of oil approximately every 4000 miles or so. Covered under TSB 2030197/10. The fix involved replacing the breather assembly and installing new gaskets and seals, updating the ECM programming, and doing "oil test part 1." This was apparently a complicated fix that involved removing and reinstalling the supercharger.
2) MMI screen not opening/closing smoothly. Covered under TSB 2028446/4. Replaced a couple parts and did a "MMI ZUG update."
3) Car displayed a transmission malfunction message on the dashboard and failed to start. Covered under TSB 2030580/7 after relevant error codes found. Replaced vehicle key and performed software update to comfort control module.
4) The car was also low on coolant to the point that the warning message would come on when the vehicle was first started in the morning, but no leaks were found after a pressure test.
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Why laugh--- Every make of car has its issues, none are immune. In this case as mentioned, the 2012 Audi A6 2.0 & 3.0 had enough complaints of excess oil consumption in that Audi was said to have issued a TSB. You are absolutely correct in that any make car can have a lemon which is not typical of the car and I am NOT stating that this is a typical issue with many Audi's but that there were enough incidents occurring that the need for a bulletin was warranted and to Audi's credit it appears they did, stating that action should be taken as explained in the TSB (See above quoted post) . . In searching the board on 8/23/2013 a post states that TSB2030197/10 was issued and states and explains the need of an "oil consumption test" (detaiis of the fix are explained in the above post) if a customer complains their car is burning to much oil. My car had the procedure done at no charge and it appears to have been successful but in that time period of excess burning it is very possible the catalytic convertor could have been damaged. Catalytic Convertors do not usually need to be replaced at 48,000 miles but excess oil usage is often a very possible cause of premature failure. Coincidence, I doubt it.
I am merely trying to point out that a car experiencing excess oil burning or usage should be brought in for service and that goes for not only Audi's but any make car for that matter to eliminate or minimize future mechanical problems.
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Why Laugh - did you see the statement I quoted which i responded to? It was this
The fact that a BMW salesman said a different brand would give you issues while BMW would not is laughable for all the reasons I stated
He understood the reasons why as I mentioned the above but he made the prophetic call that the car would not give me the years of trouble free service that I got from my last 3 BMW's which were really built to last.(I actually got 313,000 miles out of my '97 528i.)
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I average 1 trip to the dealer every month or 2 with the BMWs. And they're a pleasure. I had less trips with the Audi, but getting stuff covered is like pulling teeth. BMW happily covers problems, no questions asked.
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48,000 miles on my 2 year old 2012 A6 prestige and my catalytic convertor already needs replacing. My car had the oil consumption procedure done (there was a service bulletin on the problem) when I was burning about 1 quart every 2,000 miles, I now burn 1 quart per 5,000 miles and it seems to be increasing again but undoubtably the damage was already done. It is a proven fact (posted all over the internet) that excess oil consumption can destroy a cars catalytic convertor and Audi by the necessity of having to issue a service bulletin seems to have more than its share of oil burners. If your car is burning oil or has in the past and you thought it was corrected and you were out of the woods beware, this could be something that you should be concerned about. Spending $65,000 for a car in this day and age you would expect better than problems like this.
Comforting to think the A6 has 2 catalytic convertors and only one will be replaced. Now if one was damaged by the excess oil consumption it only figures that convertor #2 will have also suffered some damage. When will that one set off the dreaded check engine light as well?? Audi of course will pick up the cost of the repair, as by law catalytic convertors are warranted for 80,000 miles but what after that? I usually keep my cars for a couple of hundred thousand miles each but those were all BMWs. Why Oh Why did I ever leave BMW after 25 years and 3 great cars on which I put over 200,000 miles on each of them. What is even more infuriating is that Audi only offered me $29,000 (and it's only 2 years old) for this car if I were to trade it in, even though the car looks to be in perfect condition, Talk about depreciation, that's an insult. I would love to trade it in for a BMW but can't afford the beating. Really bad vibes on this car as to what else the excess oil burning might have caused that will show up in the future so I would love to get rid of it. Really don't know what to do going forward, or am I going backward. BAD SCENE TO SAY THE LEAST! Really want out of this car.
Comforting to think the A6 has 2 catalytic convertors and only one will be replaced. Now if one was damaged by the excess oil consumption it only figures that convertor #2 will have also suffered some damage. When will that one set off the dreaded check engine light as well?? Audi of course will pick up the cost of the repair, as by law catalytic convertors are warranted for 80,000 miles but what after that? I usually keep my cars for a couple of hundred thousand miles each but those were all BMWs. Why Oh Why did I ever leave BMW after 25 years and 3 great cars on which I put over 200,000 miles on each of them. What is even more infuriating is that Audi only offered me $29,000 (and it's only 2 years old) for this car if I were to trade it in, even though the car looks to be in perfect condition, Talk about depreciation, that's an insult. I would love to trade it in for a BMW but can't afford the beating. Really bad vibes on this car as to what else the excess oil burning might have caused that will show up in the future so I would love to get rid of it. Really don't know what to do going forward, or am I going backward. BAD SCENE TO SAY THE LEAST! Really want out of this car.
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I just had my 45K service done and had them swap out the crankcase breather valve, per the TSB. The lead tech who's a friend of mine mentioned that none of the cars he's seen that had that fix done have come back with further issues.
On another note, i asked about the overheating issue in some cars that require a new thermostat, and he confirmed there have been multiple revisions to the thermostat since initial production, so i'm having mine swapped out at next visit for peace of mind.
On another note, i asked about the overheating issue in some cars that require a new thermostat, and he confirmed there have been multiple revisions to the thermostat since initial production, so i'm having mine swapped out at next visit for peace of mind.
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Nice preemptive move on your part. I, unfortunately, suffered the dreaded thermostat failure at the most in opportune place, resulting in taking 13+ hours before a flat bed tow truck could get to us.
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Mine is about to go in -- consumes 1 qt every 2K. Yes, I do drive it pretty hard, and the mechanic I spoke with two weeks ago did explain to me that it might, under pushed conditions, burn up a qt every 8-10K, but every 2K is abnormal.
I'll post back after I've been through the service conversation and experience.
I'll post back after I've been through the service conversation and experience.
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2k was about my level-- Beware
Mine is about to go in -- consumes 1 qt every 2K. Yes, I do drive it pretty hard, and the mechanic I spoke with two weeks ago did explain to me that it might, under pushed conditions, burn up a qt every 8-10K, but every 2K is abnormal.
I'll post back after I've been through the service conversation and experience.
I'll post back after I've been through the service conversation and experience.
Do remember that catalytic convertors are warranted in the US for 80,000 miles by law if you do have a problem at a later time.