Cat Delete?
01-21-2015, 08:26 AM
#11
AudiWorld Super User
No Indy or repair shop is going to hang their rear out on this subject, it's a Federal EPA mandate enforced by state EPA agency's and some states take it up a step further...flash hacking can cause other problems so why take the chance on what some kiddies are doing with old VW's or Audi's on their last leg of milking the ride out.
Us "kiddies" like to modify our rides and increase performance. Sometimes that means removing emissions devices on our "old" rides on their "last legs". I'm 40 years old by the way. And my Audi is 11 years old, in pristine condition with about 90k on the odometer.
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01-21-2015, 10:04 AM
#12
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Depends on where you live as to what a repair shop will do for you. They know what is ok in your area and what is not ok. The EPA has mandated cats for decades. And some people have been removing them for decades. Do your own research and make your own decision.
Us "kiddies" like to modify our rides and increase performance. Sometimes that means removing emissions devices on our "old" rides on their "last legs". I'm 40 years old by the way. And my Audi is 11 years old, in pristine condition with about 90k on the odometer.
Us "kiddies" like to modify our rides and increase performance. Sometimes that means removing emissions devices on our "old" rides on their "last legs". I'm 40 years old by the way. And my Audi is 11 years old, in pristine condition with about 90k on the odometer.
01-22-2015, 05:27 AM
#13
AudiWorld Super User
Depends on where you live as to what a repair shop will do for you. They know what is ok in your area and what is not ok. The EPA has mandated cats for decades. And some people have been removing them for decades. Do your own research and make your own decision.
Us "kiddies" like to modify our rides and increase performance. Sometimes that means removing emissions devices on our "old" rides on their "last legs". I'm 40 years old by the way. And my Audi is 11 years old, in pristine condition with about 90k on the odometer.
Us "kiddies" like to modify our rides and increase performance. Sometimes that means removing emissions devices on our "old" rides on their "last legs". I'm 40 years old by the way. And my Audi is 11 years old, in pristine condition with about 90k on the odometer.
just coz "its been done for decades" does not make it correct, lawfull, or should be promoted here.
To be honest you might be 40 but you sound like my teenage son '"all the other kids are doing it "
Im sure you words are correct, you will find a place and it has been done, but please dont promote it here.
01-22-2015, 09:47 AM
#14
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it is not "OKAY" in any area to delete a cat, you are breaking the law wherever you go ...
just coz "its been done for decades" does not make it correct, lawfull, or should be promoted here.
To be honest you might be 40 but you sound like my teenage son '"all the other kids are doing it "
Im sure you words are correct, you will find a place and it has been done, but please dont promote it here.
just coz "its been done for decades" does not make it correct, lawfull, or should be promoted here.
To be honest you might be 40 but you sound like my teenage son '"all the other kids are doing it "
Im sure you words are correct, you will find a place and it has been done, but please dont promote it here.
Finally my advise to the OP is do some research and make your own decision. Is it against the law? Technically yes. But so is speeding. There are laws and then there are laws.
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01-22-2015, 11:41 AM
#15
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Its not even as much about the law of it, than just knowing some people for no good reason remove the biggest emissions device on the car. Pollution is real you know, air quality is a real thing. Drive a car a few miles with a working emissions system, then park it in your garage and close the door while its running, you could be in there awhile before starting to feel sick. Take the cat off the same car, do the same thing, you wont last even a minute before its overwhelmingly full of unburned fuel stinging your eyes. To me its selfish for some people to decide not to follow something rather obviously good. An unblocked working cat creates almost no resistance in the exhaust, you get no performance benefit for removing a good cat.
01-22-2015, 12:21 PM
#16
Its not even as much about the law of it, than just knowing some people for no good reason remove the biggest emissions device on the car. Pollution is real you know, air quality is a real thing. Drive a car a few miles with a working emissions system, then park it in your garage and close the door while its running, you could be in there awhile before starting to feel sick. Take the cat off the same car, do the same thing, you wont last even a minute before its overwhelmingly full of unburned fuel stinging your eyes. To me its selfish for some people to decide not to follow something rather obviously good. An unblocked working cat creates almost no resistance in the exhaust, you get no performance benefit for removing a good cat.
01-22-2015, 04:13 PM
#17
AudiWorld Super User
Agreed and the consensus in this forum is overwhelmingly for this and respects the law that enforces it, any adverse opinion these days is like swearing at a Amish picnic with a beer in hand....not appropriate.
01-24-2015, 07:12 AM
#18
AudiWorld Super User
Its not even as much about the law of it, than just knowing some people for no good reason remove the biggest emissions device on the car. Pollution is real you know, air quality is a real thing. Drive a car a few miles with a working emissions system, then park it in your garage and close the door while its running, you could be in there awhile before starting to feel sick. Take the cat off the same car, do the same thing, you wont last even a minute before its overwhelmingly full of unburned fuel stinging your eyes. To me its selfish for some people to decide not to follow something rather obviously good. An unblocked working cat creates almost no resistance in the exhaust, you get no performance benefit for removing a good cat.
This is completely untrue. First, cat or no cat, suggesting that someone run their car in a closed garage is one of the most immoral statements I have read in a long time. Wow. Just wow. Also if you have that much unburned fuel coming out of the exhaust there is something seriously wrong with your car. Second while it is less of an issue on the NA motors the cats on turbo cars are way too small and seriously hinder performance. Now if we were talking about a newer vehicle it would be a different story. Manufacturers have finally learned to install adequately sized cats as to not hinder performance. Lastly I will agree that pollution is real. We should ban China immediately as they are dumping more pollution every day than our entire country does in a year. Regardless of how many of us delete our cats.
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01-24-2015, 07:21 AM
#19
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So three people are a consensus? That's like saying gun control advocates are right and more gun laws will stop gun violence. Go read some posts concerning topics other than fixing issues. Read some of the topics about performance modifications. Search the word "piggy". You might find that considerably more people are concerned about removing their perfectly functioning cats. As far as the Amish picnic goes, there are Amish people and there are Amish people. Some are a little less orthodox than others.
06-30-2021, 09:51 PM
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This is completely untrue. First, cat or no cat, suggesting that someone run their car in a closed garage is one of the most immoral statements I have read in a long time. Wow. Just wow. Also if you have that much unburned fuel coming out of the exhaust there is something seriously wrong with your car. Second while it is less of an issue on the NA motors the cats on turbo cars are way too small and seriously hinder performance. Now if we were talking about a newer vehicle it would be a different story. Manufacturers have finally learned to install adequately sized cats as to not hinder performance. Lastly I will agree that pollution is real. We should ban China immediately as they are dumping more pollution every day than our entire country does in a year. Regardless of how many of us delete our cats.