Left front outer pad wear odd - aluminum shavings on hub - wheel bearing?
#21
AudiWorld Super User
Good call Kris on the pics!
Wow, I just noticed what you were talking about! These pics were taken at the same time this morning at Tire Warehouse (nail in the LF tire). I'm not sure if it is the angle at which I took the picture or if the rotor moved out a bit when the guy was changing the tire (shouldn't have with the caliper holding it on) but it sure seems like the rotor is not set right on the hub. But this definitely doesn't look right. Wheel coming off again tomorrow! Maybe that would explain the brake pulsation too....I can't believe I would miss that. Factory Audi rotor.
#22
Audiworld Senior Member
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I did the front brakes, both front axles (one twice due to a defective one). Brakes were assembled with a lug tight to hold the rotor's in place (no screw holes in the hubs). The fitment of the new rotors was fine when I installed them. But, the wheels on this car have been off a half dozen times in the last year because of tire problems. The first set of Contis wouldn't balance. 2nd set balance issues again. Rotated 3 more times due to vibrations which turned out to be 2 bad prop shafts.
#24
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The only thing that could be remotely possible is the hub bearing is moving allowing the bolt to dive into the rim center, we all know that the rim and rotor are sandwiched to the hub's flat surface but the bearing is the only point that keeps the hub and axle stationary.....Is it possible that the wrong length axle was put on that side.
#26
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Wrong hub or rotor. Rotor # 8E0698301RKT is OEM
Wow, I just noticed what you were talking about! These pics were taken at the same time this morning at Tire Warehouse (nail in the LF tire). I'm not sure if it is the angle at which I took the picture or if the rotor moved out a bit when the guy was changing the tire (shouldn't have with the caliper holding it on) but it sure seems like the rotor is not set right on the hub. But this definitely doesn't look right. Wheel coming off again tomorrow! Maybe that would explain the brake pulsation too....I can't believe I would miss that. Factory Audi rotor.
Plus the rotor is off center from the hub. There should be zero clearance between the rotor hub and the axle hub….the axle hub centers the wheel concentric with the axle centerline. Measure the ID of your wheel hub and compare it with the OD of that axle hub centric ridge.
Last edited by SloopJohnB@mac.com; 12-07-2014 at 10:35 AM.
#27
AudiWorld Member
That doesn't look like the P/N in the picture...
Plus the rotor is off center from the hub. There should be zero clearance between the rotor hub and the axle hub….the axle hub centers the wheel concentric with the axle centerline. Measure the ID of your wheel hub and compare it with the OD of that axle hub centric ridge.
Plus the rotor is off center from the hub. There should be zero clearance between the rotor hub and the axle hub….the axle hub centers the wheel concentric with the axle centerline. Measure the ID of your wheel hub and compare it with the OD of that axle hub centric ridge.
You might try another check to see where the play is. Reinstall wheel w/o center cover. Jack up that side of car to get tire off the ground. Wedge a bar btwn tire & ground to lift tire. See if you have any radial play. With axial bolt offcenter like pic shows, I'd expect you should get lots of motion.
Last edited by CRuby; 12-08-2014 at 10:16 AM.
#28
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Thread Starter
That doesn't look like the P/N in the picture...
Plus the rotor is off center from the hub. There should be zero clearance between the rotor hub and the axle hub….the axle hub centers the wheel concentric with the axle centerline. Measure the ID of your wheel hub and compare it with the OD of that axle hub centric ridge.
Plus the rotor is off center from the hub. There should be zero clearance between the rotor hub and the axle hub….the axle hub centers the wheel concentric with the axle centerline. Measure the ID of your wheel hub and compare it with the OD of that axle hub centric ridge.
#29
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The only thing that could be remotely possible is the hub bearing is moving allowing the bolt to dive into the rim center, we all know that the rim and rotor are sandwiched to the hub's flat surface but the bearing is the only point that keeps the hub and axle stationary.....Is it possible that the wrong length axle was put on that side.
#30
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Well I got 135 degrees on the LF and 120 degrees on the RF after 190NM or about 140 ft/lbs. Raxles instructions were 90 degrees for the M16 bolt. For what its worth, the Audi tech told me that they typically get 90-120 degrees - rarely 180. There is 0 play in the hub and they are single use stretch bolts so I didn't want to crack it loose without a replacement handy.