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Old 05-31-2014, 12:05 PM   #1
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Hey. Im new here, but i must give up the dealer. And ask here. I have buy this car from a old man, so not have drive him since november 2013. Last long life was at 120 t km. Gear tips
cel light turn on. tiptronic 6 gear HAV zf.
The car had problem to get normal ,and in 1900-2100rpm it was Hacking, lugging, like engine goes higher Then rpm ( like 4000 rpm. But Only 1900. Always happend when motor is warm. Speciel when i must drive on highway up, lugging, i change new sparks , and new motor oil and filter. Drive so to red line when motor was norm temp , i do That for 30 sek, 3 times in 3 gear. Some say is converter. But now all is ok. Km is 152.000 now 2005 mod. Audi dont find any diagnose, ( but cell light was ok when they check. Will it be ok now? For how long? Was no smoke eksos when i burn" high rpm.
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Hey. Im new here, but i must give up the dealer. And ask here. I have buy this car from a old man, so not have drive him since november 2013. Last long life was at 120 t km. Gear tips
cel light turn on. tiptronic 6 gear HAV zf.
The car had problem to get normal ,and in 1900-2100rpm it was Hacking, lugging, like engine goes higher Then rpm ( like 4000 rpm. But Only 1900. Always happend when motor is warm. Speciel when i must drive on highway up, lugging, i change new sparks , and new motor oil and filter. Drive so to red line when motor was norm temp , i do That for 30 sek, 3 times in 3 gear. Some say is converter. But now all is ok. Km is 152.000 now 2005 mod. Audi dont find any diagnose, ( but cell light was ok when they check. Will it be ok now? For how long? Was no smoke eksos when i burn" high rpm.
I'm assuming that English is not your first language, so this was VERY difficult to comprehend. However, before you get too far along, I understand there is a CEL (check engine light) on and that there is an rpm related issue.

Step #1 in your case is pull data with a vag-com cable (VCDS Ross-tech) and post us the faults you see. That is pretty well the only way we can do remote troubleshooting for this type of issue.

You mentioned changing plugs, how about spark plug wires? fuel filter change? there are lots of options...but more data is required.
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Hey. Thanksgiving for answer. You mean this cable, controller and auto scan ?
http://www.obd2.no/produkt/vag-com-vcds/hex-usbcan-intelligent-dual-k-plus-can-usb-interface



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I'm assuming that English is not your first language, so this was VERY difficult to comprehend. However, before you get too far along, I understand there is a CEL (check engine light) on and that there is an rpm related issue.

Step #1 in your case is pull data with a vag-com cable (VCDS Ross-tech) and post us the faults you see. That is pretty well the only way we can do remote troubleshooting for this type of issue.

You mentioned changing plugs, how about spark plug wires? fuel filter change? there are lots of options...but more data is required.
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Just FYI, there are much cheaper options too: just get an ELM327 Bluetooth adapter (sold on amazon, ebay, etc.) and use an Android app to check your faults. There are 2 main apps I'd recommend:

Carista - diagnoses VW/Audi-specific ECUs, like VCDS; also, can change customization settings
Torque - diagnoses engine only (via OBD2, no Audi-specific stuff); can also display real-time engine data

Carista costs $10 and Torque Pro costs about $5. The Bluetooth adapter is around $10-20. So overall, much cheaper than VCDS, and even cheaper than going to a service shop ONCE.
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Hey. Thanksgiving for answer. You mean this cable, controller and auto scan ?
http://www.obd2.no/produkt/vag-com-v...-usb-interface
this is what a REAL VCDS is: http://store.ross-tech.com/shop/VCHUC.html

It will give you FULL access to the functionality of the vag system and supported through Ross-Tech
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Just FYI, there are much cheaper options too: just get an ELM327 Bluetooth adapter (sold on amazon, ebay, etc.) and use an Android app to check your faults. There are 2 main apps I'd recommend:

Carista - diagnoses VW/Audi-specific ECUs, like VCDS; also, can change customization settings
Torque - diagnoses engine only (via OBD2, no Audi-specific stuff); can also display real-time engine data

Carista costs $10 and Torque Pro costs about $5. The Bluetooth adapter is around $10-20. So overall, much cheaper than VCDS, and even cheaper than going to a service shop ONCE.

So I've played around a little with the ELM327 and w/Carista. All you are getting is a generic OBDII reader and basic fault reset functionality. It's not anywhere the same level of functionality as the RossTech product, nor does it allow the coding in and out of items via long-code, etc...

If all you need is basic OBDII functionality, there are numerous ones available, even the generic cables that run RossTech lite version of s/w are better than 90+% of the Wallyworld obd2 kits being sold for $25 or so.
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Hey. Thanksgiving for answer. You mean this cable, controller and auto scan ?
http://www.obd2.no/produkt/vag-com-v...-usb-interface
Yes, that is the Norwegian distributor for VCDS.
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So I've played around a little with the ELM327 and w/Carista. All you are getting is a generic OBDII reader and basic fault reset functionality. It's not anywhere the same level of functionality as the RossTech product, nor does it allow the coding in and out of items via long-code, etc...

If all you need is basic OBDII functionality, there are numerous ones available, even the generic cables that run RossTech lite version of s/w are better than 90+% of the Wallyworld obd2 kits being sold for $25 or so.
Completely agree.

I've got one of those ELM devices from back when we had a *shudder* Saturn.
Sits on a shelf now, wasted money since VCDS also has OBDII functionality.
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this is what a REAL VCDS is: http://store.ross-tech.com/shop/VCHUC.html

It will give you FULL access to the functionality of the vag system and supported through Ross-Tech
There is no fault to see/ find when scan and light panel is away". The transmission man ZF called me yesterday , and he say he dont think the tronic is the problem, But coils, and spark leaders. I told how i had drive, ( very hard, and the problem can Maybe fix it self now. But im not sure. Must the cell light be yellow to find the problem? The symptoms was lugging/ Hacking between 1800-2000 rpm. Like the engine dont get enough fuel, sorry for my bad English. And thanx for all respons here. Is not like that in Norway forum Audi. I will change the transmission oil , not Lifetime so Audi say, and hope i dont get problem after flush the converter
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I think this is more easy to use.

What's the difference between VCDS and an OBD-II Scan-Tool?
OBD-II is a government mandated diagnostic protocol that is primarily aimed at diagnosing emissions-related problems.** An OBD-II scan tool will work in many different brands of cars.* VCDS uses VW's proprietary diagnostic protocol and and is only designed and supported for use in VW/Audi vehicles.* Although you can use an OBD-II Scan Tool in an OBD-II compliant (1996 or newer) VW or Audi, an OBD-II Scan Tool can only talk to the engine, not the numerous other "intelligent" systems in the car.** Want to reprogram your central locks or your Radio?* Diagnose a problem with your ABS, Airbags, or Automatic Transmission?* Re-align your Immobilizer after swapping ECU's?* Reset your Service Reminder Indicators?** Communicate with a pre-1996 model (not OBD-II compliant) car?* An OBD-II Scan-Tool can't do any of these things. Please see our OBD-II Page for information on using the Generic OBD-II function in VCDS. Want some reasons to choose VCDS over a generic OBD-II scan tool? See this Real World Comparison.**
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I think this is more easy to use.

What's the difference between VCDS and an OBD-II Scan-Tool?
OBD-II is a government mandated diagnostic protocol that is primarily aimed at diagnosing emissions-related problems.** An OBD-II scan tool will work in many different brands of cars.* VCDS uses VW's proprietary diagnostic protocol and and is only designed and supported for use in VW/Audi vehicles.* Although you can use an OBD-II Scan Tool in an OBD-II compliant (1996 or newer) VW or Audi, an OBD-II Scan Tool can only talk to the engine, not the numerous other "intelligent" systems in the car.** Want to reprogram your central locks or your Radio?* Diagnose a problem with your ABS, Airbags, or Automatic Transmission?* Re-align your Immobilizer after swapping ECU's?* Reset your Service Reminder Indicators?** Communicate with a pre-1996 model (not OBD-II compliant) car?* An OBD-II Scan-Tool can't do any of these things. Please see our OBD-II Page for information on using the Generic OBD-II function in VCDS. Want some reasons to choose VCDS over a generic OBD-II scan tool? See this Real World Comparison.**
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There is no fault to see/ find when scan and light panel is away". The transmission man ZF called me yesterday , and he say he dont think the tronic is the problem, But coils, and spark leaders. I told how i had drive, ( very hard, and the problem can Maybe fix it self now. But im not sure. Must the cell light be yellow to find the problem? The symptoms was lugging/ Hacking between 1800-2000 rpm. Like the engine dont get enough fuel, sorry for my bad English. And thanx for all respons here. Is not like that in Norway forum Audi. I will change the transmission oil , not Lifetime so Audi say, and hope i dont get problem after flush the converter
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Yes could be the coil packs. There's a recall for them. The C6 doesn't have have "spark plug wires" so you can't check those as raj99 recommended because you don't have them.
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Yes could be the coil packs. There's a recall for them. The C6 doesn't have have "spark plug wires" so you can't check those as raj99 recommended because you don't have them.
Thanks, I'm aware that they are called coil packs, however wanted to use the generic term so that the OP wouldn't be further confused. Since, English is not his primary language and everyone who knows anything about cars knows what a spark plug wire is, whereby a "coil pack" is less intuitive.
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So I've played around a little with the ELM327 and w/Carista. All you are getting is a generic OBDII reader and basic fault reset functionality. It's not anywhere the same level of functionality as the RossTech product, nor does it allow the coding in and out of items via long-code, etc...

If all you need is basic OBDII functionality, there are numerous ones available, even the generic cables that run RossTech lite version of s/w are better than 90+% of the Wallyworld obd2 kits being sold for $25 or so.
Hi guys, we (Carista) are now officially a vendor here, so I'd like to clarify what the app can and cannot do, since there was some imprecise info posted. Carista is NOT just a generic OBDII reader.

It CAN connect to all ECUs in the car (incl. ABS, airbag, etc.) using a VAG-specific protocol and pull VAG-specific codes, just like dealer software or VCDS can.

It CAN change "adaptations" (which we call "customizations"), although we don't yet support the full set of adaptations that the dealer or VCDS can do.

It CANNOT change ECU coding (yet). We're working on adding this capability.

It CANNOT display real-time engine data. We don't have any immediate plans to support this, since that's not the point of our app.

It costs $19.99 for the app plus about $10-20 for the Bluetooth dongle. Just sayin'
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Hi guys, we (Carista) are now officially a vendor here, so I'd like to clarify what the app can and cannot do, since there was some imprecise info posted. Carista is NOT just a generic OBDII reader.

It CAN connect to all ECUs in the car (incl. ABS, airbag, etc.) using a VAG-specific protocol and pull VAG-specific codes, just like dealer software or VCDS can.

It CAN change "adaptations" (which we call "customizations"), although we don't yet support the full set of adaptations that the dealer or VCDS can do.

It CANNOT change ECU coding (yet). We're working on adding this capability.

It CANNOT display real-time engine data. We don't have any immediate plans to support this, since that's not the point of our app.

It costs $19.99 for the app plus about $10-20 for the Bluetooth dongle. Just sayin'
If only you guys had a trial for your Pro version I'd be interested to try it before dropping $20.
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If only you guys had a trial for your Pro version I'd be interested to try it before dropping $20.
Well, the good thing is that the app doesn't even let you buy the Pro Package until it detects that you have a compatible car and you have some non-OBD2 error codes, or you wanna change some customization setting (it shows you what settings are available and what their current values are for free). So by that time, you know that it can successfully connect to your car and read codes and setting values.

But as a special "promo" since we're new to this forum, I can give you a free 14-day trial. How does that sound? Just PM me the Google account with which you're logged into your Android device and I'll enable that for your account.
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Well, the good thing is that the app doesn't even let you buy the Pro Package until it detects that you have a compatible car and you have some non-OBD2 error codes, or you wanna change some customization setting (it shows you what settings are available and what their current values are for free). So by that time, you know that it can successfully connect to your car and read codes and setting values.

But as a special "promo" since we're new to this forum, I can give you a free 14-day trial. How does that sound? Just PM me the Google account with which you're logged into your Android device and I'll enable that for your account.
That sounds good. PM Sent.
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Hi guys, we (Carista) are now officially a vendor here, so I'd like to clarify what the app can and cannot do, since there was some imprecise info posted. Carista is NOT just a generic OBDII reader.

It CAN connect to all ECUs in the car (incl. ABS, airbag, etc.) using a VAG-specific protocol and pull VAG-specific codes, just like dealer software or VCDS can.

It CAN change "adaptations" (which we call "customizations"), although we don't yet support the full set of adaptations that the dealer or VCDS can do.

It CANNOT change ECU coding (yet). We're working on adding this capability.

It CANNOT display real-time engine data. We don't have any immediate plans to support this, since that's not the point of our app.

It costs $19.99 for the app plus about $10-20 for the Bluetooth dongle. Just sayin'

Do you happen to have a detailed side by side comparison as to what 'customizations' you offer vs. VCDS? Or at the very least a complete list of your customization specific to the C6?

I'd also be interested in understanding your roadmap re: ECU coding.

Feel free to PM me, if you'd like to work with someone to do any testing or validation, I have a lot of experience with that
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Well, the good thing is that the app doesn't even let you buy the Pro Package until it detects that you have a compatible car and you have some non-OBD2 error codes, or you wanna change some customization setting (it shows you what settings are available and what their current values are for free). So by that time, you know that it can successfully connect to your car and read codes and setting values.

But as a special "promo" since we're new to this forum, I can give you a free 14-day trial. How does that sound? Just PM me the Google account with which you're logged into your Android device and I'll enable that for your account.

So I just tried the app and indeed it does read VAG specific codes (quite impressive since it groups everything and gives you a mini explanation). It also does allow you to do a small amount of adaptations.
I can say that making changes does work. This app actually allowed me to fix the sunroof that wouldn't open with the key. Now it actually does.
Is it worth $20? Yes. Beats buying a $300 cable just to read what codes you have - but obviously it doesn't replace the cable. It's more of a supplement to a VAG. But for a total of $35 ($20 for the app + $15 for OBDII reader from Amazon) to be able to read and clear VAG specific codes, its a steal!
I will be buying the app after my trial period ends, hopefully you guys can add more adaptations for the A6 than the currently limited selection.
Here are some screenshots that show what the app can do (I am missing a screenshot that shows my ABS module faults and the fact that I have no OBDII codes):
















I tried this app on my '05 A6. I haven't had a change to try it on a Toyota or Lexus to see what happens.
Overall I have to say that I am impressed with the capabilities of the app so far. If more adaptations/long coding can be added this would be an amazing app. And the best part? No need for a computer or physical connection.

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