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Old 05-27-2014, 08:04 AM   #1
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Default Control Arms - Ocap or Meyle or OEM?

Any opinions (good or bad) or recommendations on a good control arm kit? I'm thinking about doing these relatively soon.

Blauparts: Ocap (Oh crap?) - $545.95 for kit with "improved tie rod ends." I've heard mixed reviews about this brand, but I have no experience. Blau states that Ocap is OE supplier to VW/Audi.

Blauparts: Meyle -$imalar price but currently out of stock. German made. I've heard they make good quality parts.

Genuineaudiparts: OEM - I priced on GAP for $1,737.35 + SH including all arms, tie rod ends, sway bar links and hardware kit. OUCH!
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OCAP is NOT a vw/audi supplier. skip them
Meyle is junk skip them too

order lemforder or TRW arms, try partsgeek.com or rmeuropean.com

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OCAP is NOT a vw/audi supplier. skip them
Meyle is junk skip them too

order lemforder or TRW arms, try partsgeek.com or rmeuropean.com
It appears PG does not carry a full set of arms for either brand you mention. I'll do some more research.

For arms/sway bar links/TRE's on rmeuropean.com total comes to $1089.41. I think I saw the full hardware kit on GAP for $100.

Thanks for the help.

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I also need driver's side upper control arms, and I'm going to try Beck & Arnley. They seem to have good reviews. I've used other products from them with good results.

I've found Lemforder parts are about/if not more expensive than Audi OEM parts.

http://www.beckarnley.com

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I also need driver's side upper control arms, and I'm going to try Beck & Arnley. They seem to have good reviews. I've used other products from them with good results.

I've found Lemforder parts are about/if not more expensive than Audi OEM parts.

http://www.beckarnley.com

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When it comes to control arms for any VW/Audi, Audinutt is right on the money...ONLY Lemforder or TRW are a good choice.

OCAP=junk.

Beck & Arnley are OK for many parts (I've used em), but wouldn't risk their control arms...nothing I've used by them has the to take the heavy stress that control arms do....I personally would risk it.

As much as I like to save $$ on many parts, I would not use anything but Lem's or TRW's for control arms.

Not sure, but I thought OEM control arms are Lemforder(?)...I know my inner tie rod ends are Lem's from the factory, and perfect at 130K miles.
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Not sure, but I thought OEM control arms are Lemforder(?)
The Lemfoerder arms on rmeuropean.com are listed with Audi part numbers, so I'd assume that's a safe bet. They also state "original equipment."

A few of the Lem arms on partsgeek.com (that they actually carry...they don't have them all) are $10-20 cheaper/arm. So, it appears to be around $1k to replace all 8 arms, sway bar links, and TREs with OEM parts. As a comparison, based on Audi list prices (aka ECS prices), the total comes to nearly $2.3k.

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How cool are these?!

http://store.034motorsport.com/034mo...udi-a8-s8.html

Probably way too hardcore for street driving, but as a dedicated track car these would be sweet, after a 6spd conversion and some adjustable coilovers of course. Maybe some day...
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Is there a source for the bushing? I've got a nice old arbor that works like a top.

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Ps. What about Bilstein?

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Is there a source for the bushing? I've got a nice old arbor that works like a top.

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Ps. What about Bilstein?
I was just about to ask the same question. It would seem the best approach is to use the Audi parts and just replace bushings. I wonder if there is some number/code just on the rubber part that could hint at the bushing source.
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I was just about to ask the same question. It would seem the best approach is to use the Audi parts and just replace bushings. I wonder if there is some number/code just on the rubber part that could hint at the bushing source.
ETKA, same #'s for all yrs FL and PFL D2's:

Fr Upper front...4D0 407 516 C

Fr Upper rear....4D0 407 515 C

Fr Lower front...4D0 407 182 G

Fr Lower rear....4D0 407 183 AC

Lower strut mount...4D0 407 181 H

Any place that stocks OEM parts should carry them...Like GAP, ECS, etc..

A lotta work and taking the chance that the ball joint will last as long as a 2nd bushing. On most past VW's, the upper arm ball joints were the 1st to go on me, especially if there's the least little breach in the boot. I'd want a fresh new arm while I'm in there, if it was me.
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Is it possible to R/R the Ball Joint too or does it take a special tool to remove it? pc

Ps. silverd2.. Thank You for these PN's, no surprise as to prices..

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OCAP is NOT a vw/audi supplier. skip them
Meyle is junk skip them too

order lemforder or TRW arms, try partsgeek.com or rmeuropean.com
Myle HD suspension and steering stuff is far from "junk" they Are very well built for the money. yet to have any of the HD series stuff fail on customer cars. They may be made in china, but Germans run the factories and do the Quality control.
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Is it possible to R/R the Ball Joint too or does it take a special tool to remove it? pc

Ps. silverd2.. Thank You for these PN's, no surprise as to prices..
Not to my knowledge...have never seen replacement parts (not listed in ETKA or service manuals) or a procedure.
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Myle HD suspension and steering stuff is far from "junk" they Are very well built for the money. yet to have any of the HD series stuff fail on customer cars. They may be made in china, but Germans run the factories and do the Quality control.

Well, looks like Skippy's back with more completely unfouned advice.

Apparently, "Myle HD" is a WalMart car care center brand, tested by one old woman in a FWD A4 who hasn't complained after almost 300 miles of driving.

Meyle arms have been tested in the real world by countless long term VW/Audi owners...the general consensus is "junk".

Meyle's corporate website admits that the reason for the their "HD" line (unlike WalMart's "Myle Syrus HD") is because of "common early failures" in their previous line.

The VW/Audi HD control arm line wasn't introduced to the world in a press release until late Feb 2013, available in the US for little more than one year so far. I don't think that that 12-20K miles (at most) is a real world test...but I can't wait to see if the old woman makes it to 1K miles on her Myle's.

Although China can occasionally produce good quality, IF it chooses too, NOTHING in China is overseen by ANYONE other than Chinese...other positions are merely "honorary" to satisfy wording in partnership agreements. Read a book...things ain't that rosy outside of Kansas.
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Well, looks like Skippy's back with more completely unfouned advice.

Apparently, "Myle HD" is a WalMart car care center brand, tested by one old woman in a FWD A4 who hasn't complained after almost 300 miles of driving.

Meyle arms have been tested in the real world by countless long term VW/Audi owners...the general consensus is "junk".

Meyle's corporate website admits that the reason for the their "HD" line (unlike WalMart's "Myle Syrus HD") is because of "common early failures" in their previous line.

The VW/Audi HD control arm line wasn't introduced to the world in a press release until late Feb 2013, available in the US for little more than one year so far. I don't think that that 12-20K miles (at most) is a real world test...but I can't wait to see if the old woman makes it to 1K miles on her Myle's.

Although China can occasionally produce good quality, IF it chooses too, NOTHING in China is overseen by ANYONE other than Chinese...other positions are merely "honorary" to satisfy wording in partnership agreements. Read a book...things ain't that rosy outside of Kansas.
God your a *****. Iv had them on my A6 over 20k miles and are perfect. You have no idea what your talking about. If you stopped for a minute to pull your head out of your *** not everything China is bad in 1000 miles. Maybe if you actually had EXPERIENCE other than your one piece of **** car you would know. Oh wait your read a few posts on teh forums now you know it all. 2 posts on the internet means everything from them is just junk. Your an idiot. Not everyone wants to spend 2000$ on control arms for their 3000$ car its called a compromise, and Meyle HD does a damn good job of price and quality but you have NO experience with them so shut your pie hole until you do.
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Not to my knowledge...have never seen replacement parts (not listed in ETKA or service manuals) or a procedure.
Thats because you have none. Its part of the control arm not separate. You would know this if you actually worked on one of these cars.
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God your a *****. Iv had them on my A6 over 20k miles and are perfect. You have no idea what your talking about. If you stopped for a minute to pull your head out of your *** not everything China is bad in 1000 miles. Maybe if you actually had EXPERIENCE other than your one piece of **** car you would know. Oh wait your read a few posts on teh forums now you know it all. 2 posts on the internet means everything from them is just junk. Your an idiot.
Correction: "You're (not "Your")a *****" and "You're (not "Your") an idiot"....you illiterate boob...WalMart doesn't count off for spelling, huh?

Read this Skippy...or have your mommy do it for you (living in her basement still?) >>>

http://www.meyle.com/EN/Press/Press-releases.html
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Thats because you have none. Its part of the control arm not separate. You would know this if you actually worked on one of these cars.
That's "it's", meaning "it is"...

...You're (meaning "you are") welcome, Skippy.
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Correction: "You're (not "Your")a *****" and "You're (not "Your") an idiot"....you illiterate boob...WalMart doesn't count off for spelling, huh?

Read this Skippy...or have your mommy do it for you (living in her basement still?) >>>

http://www.meyle.com/EN/Press/Press-releases.html
And?? What about the link. I see nowhere that Meyle is saying there own stuff is junk. I see posts about their stuff keeping cars on the road longer and their commitment to quality....Whats the problem.
I like how everytime your obviously an idiot, you just have to jump to grammar and spelling. How about this. I DONT CARE. I will write my posts how I want to, not to win some grammar award. My information is actually relevant to EXPERIENCE. You know something you have none of.
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And?? What about the link. I see nowhere that Meyle is saying there own stuff is junk. I see posts about their stuff keeping cars on the road longer and their commitment to quality....Whats the problem.
I like how everytime your obviously an idiot, you just have to jump to grammar and spelling. How about this. I DONT CARE. I will write my posts how I want to, not to win some grammar award. My information is actually relevant to EXPERIENCE. You know something you have none of.

Every time is 2 words, not just 1.

What's means "what is"...."Whats" means more than one what.

DONT needs a ' added to be correct, like this >> DON'T.

"You know something you have none of." << What language is that?

Anything else you need help with, Skippy? ....or was it Zippy?

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