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Old 03-02-2015, 11:28 AM
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That is correct Johnny JJ, it does not show up on my MMI screen. Thanks
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Jeff,

Check this out https://www.audiworld.com/forums/a8-...ssing-2857987/

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That is correct Johnny JJ, it does not show up on my MMI screen. Thanks
Old 03-02-2015, 11:37 AM
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Default Got it. So before doing too much...

Be sure the battery is fully charged and you have started the car a few cycles. I just saw something similar on mine when I went to reset the TPMS yesterday after pulling off winter tires. I was also in and out of the car tons of time so battery probably ran down some. Oddly, the battery state of charge disappeared and for the first time in 7 years, the turn off choice for TPMS suddenly appeared. I finished the work and started it again to run VCDS, and by then everything had reverted back to its "normal" state completely on its own--battery charge back, turn off ability of TPMS gone again, etc.

After just seeing if it settles down and restores itself (or you have already been starting it some), look at the thread Johnny linked. Then as a guess if you don't see anything in the obvious modules or per the linked thread, I would look in the "hidden menu" for the various display choices.
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Default Done, Fixed, everything is showing back up

With the help of the VCDS tool, I used the VCDS tool to code them all back. The VCDS tools intellisense for the 07 Control Head Channel 01 tells you everything you need to know. For instance I was missing Air Suspension(value=64), Background Lighting(value=2), TPMS(value=16), Seat Adjustment(value=1024), Adaptive Cruise Control(value=1) etc.....

Steps to complete:Using the VCDS Tool
1.I opened up the 07 Control Head Module, Click Adaption, Entered Channel 01, click Read and the value was set to 0.
2. I first started off and added value 64 in the value textbox, so Air Suspension would be added to the MMI.
3. Click Test.
4. Click Save.
5. Confirm
6. Close.
7. Reboot MMI
8. It was now displayed
9. So the next step was to add the rest of the selections that were on the MMI before
10. Repeat step one(the value is now 64 not 0)
11. Now add the values from what is missing(in my example the values added are 1107)
12. Repeat steps 3 thru 7
13. All should be showing.



Thanks for everyones help. I love this blog

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Old 03-03-2015, 05:40 PM
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Default Any help would be appreciated, I do not want to take to Audi dealer

I got all my selections/options back on the MMI screen and they all work correctly. I ran a diagnostic scan and got the following codes for the Control Head and Steering Whee, cleared all then ran it again. Still got these two modules that worry me. Also, I thought this was weird, I got a 34-Level Control -- Status: Malfunction 0010 but down where it gives the details, it states
Address 34: Level Control Labels: 4E0-910-553.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 553 E HW: 4E0 907 553 E
Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC H05 4290
Coding: 0015510
Shop #: WSC 02503 444 01098
VCID: 2541171FEC14DD36C75-8070

No fault code found.



Address 07: Control Head
2 Faults Found:
02084 - Component Protection
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 31
Mileage: 192244 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:00:10

01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 31
Mileage: 192244 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:00:10


Address 16: Steering wheel
1 Fault Found:
02072 - Control Module for Energy Management (J644)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 83
Mileage: 192472 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.03.03
Time: 15:45:03
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Default Parsing each (but nothing as a magic bullet here):

Originally Posted by jeffkruse
I got all my selections/options back on the MMI screen and they all work correctly. I ran a diagnostic scan and got the following codes for the Control Head and Steering Whee, cleared all then ran it again. Still got these two modules that worry me. Also, I thought this was weird, I got a 34-Level Control -- Status: Malfunction 0010 but down where it gives the details, it states
Address 34: Level Control Labels: 4E0-910-553.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 553 E HW: 4E0 907 553 E
Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC H05 4290
Coding: 0015510
Shop #: WSC 02503 444 01098
VCID: 2541171FEC14DD36C75-8070

No fault code found.
The one is odd of course in that it doesn't seem to lead to any actual fault, and I take it you have no obvious problems with the air suspension. I would just clear it yet again and see if it stays gone. As with others below, rescrub any coding tweaks you did to get things restored.


Address 07: Control Head
2 Faults Found:
02084 - Component Protection
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 31
Mileage: 192244 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:00:10

01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 31
Mileage: 192244 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:00:10
Weird again in that I take it MMI is working, since the control head is of course the basic brains of it. Yet, it reads like component protection kicked in which would send you to the dealer. To me the error descriptions sound like something is wrong with your coding still. Do you have a scan from before this all started, or did you only just get VCDS? If you have a prior scan/print out, the coding would be right there. Failing that, see if someone else with your same general set up can offer theirs up. Failing that, enough (painfully long) full scans have been posted on AW over the years that I bet you could find some others with similar D3's.


Address 16: Steering wheel
1 Fault Found:
02072 - Control Module for Energy Management (J644)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 83
Mileage: 192472 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.03.03
Time: 15:45:03
Honestly I don't get this one at all. I don't have any offhand idea for how the energy management system would even tie to the steering wheel or its controls. I suppose maybe they are one of the things sacrificed as the power mngt system cuts in, but since those are basically electrical switches I'm not sure I really see why. Look at the power mngt system theory perhaps, and which exact modules get cut when. I guess I would look at the coding for both the steering wheel and the power mngt system for anything out of whack. I might also be overlooking something like where the voice command stuff (which I never use) resides; that would be a logical thing to sacrifice in a power conservation algorithm. Again, a prior good scan pre the problems would help immensely, or failing that at least some other D3 scans with the given systems in working order and same general set up/year/relevant options, etc.

Final idea back to something I mentioned before. If you have ever poked around in the "Hidden Menu" there are a variety of things in there as far as display options and the like that seem to overlaps things you can do with VCDS directly. I wonder if something in the Hidden Menu area (basically a bunch of check boxes in many cases) is in conflict with the coding you have tried to clean up. Hidden Menu in this area is this weird combo of a lot of German and some English sounding stuff, so it can be really cryptic. I had high school German so can stumble through it some. There are a few online resources about it from prior searches, though no definitive documentation AFAIK.
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Default Two codes now gone

Yor were correct MP4.2+6.0, 07 Control Module needed to be recoded, I had any earlier scan that had it. I did not delete it but it was gone. So one of the DTC's is gone for 07, and the 16 Steering wheel just went away. The following still displays for 07 and 34 Level Control still shows failure in the list at the top of the scan, but NO DTC' in the details of the scan. I will just continue to research.Thanks for all your help.

Address 07: Control Head
2 Faults Found:
02084 - Component Protection
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 31
Mileage: 192244 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:00:10
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Default Found something interesting

I was reviewing coding of some of the Modules, NOT CHANGING anything, just trying to get a better understanding/curious. Noticed the Coding: on the 34- Level Control Module. When you access the coding in that module a list displays. And everything on that list is correct, except the last digit Coding:0015510 that zero means the rest of the world 1 means North American Region(NAR). Does that mean anything? Could that be why I get an error at the top and no DTC's at the bottom for that module. Just curious.

Address 34: Level Control Labels: 4E0-910-553.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 553 E HW: 4E0 907 553 E
Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC H05 4290
Coding: 0015510
Shop #: WSC 02503 444 01098
VCID: 2541171FEC14DD36C75-8070
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Hi, i Had some battery problems, i changed battery 2 times, and the problem always came back. At last i found the problem, the connectors needed some sanding, and after that, it works perfect, starts every time. There is also a small cable that goes to positive side of the battery, make sure its connected. ( I dont know what it is for). And for the MMI suspension, make sure the CAR and SETUP is not on togheter.
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