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Old 09-21-2013, 04:47 AM   #1
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hi guys just purchased an audi b7 for the little brother, which has the rsn-e system. it has the cd/tv button but when pushed only shows cd and mp3. so im assuming no tv tuner.

ill tell you what im basically looking for. all i want is to be able to download movies and music videos and watch them through the system when waiting for the women while they shop and we all know what a pain that is....

so what options do i have.....?

thanks in advance

p.s will be posting in the b7 section but thought id ask here as well because you guys know a lot

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As I understand RNS-E is an integrated complete unit unlike MMI (individual components). By looking in the back of a RSN-E, there is no FBAS, so it must use pins-wires - Get the pins out of all the connectors.

1. Understand the muxing system - There's no download movies, music videos - what's your input device? The system is just a muxer to select what input device to display and play: CD, Interfaces, TV, etc.
2. What type of connection accepted via: wires, MOST optical, Canbus?
3. Select the correct type, make connections from RNS-E to the input devices and they should work.

This is the reason why Kutafec exists to make these interface to help you to add input devices easily (but not painlessly because it costs money).

If you're not technically inclined, go to Kutafec and buy their setup for a specific integration, but first, you need to find out what input device you need to integrate to the system.

The best is to find out how to connect iphone or ipod touch or android devices through bluetooth to watch videos from these devices as many people "claimed" working. Google is your friend.

Cheers,

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Default Other places to look for RNS-E...

This board really isn't it. RNS-E was used on cars like you reference, on the last of the C5 allroads, on the A3 (though hardly ever optioned up like that), and probably various other models. It was also used as a retrofit for Nav's on vehicles that used the old double DIN radio/CD/cassette (!) chassis like the D2 and the C5.

There are dedicated sites/pages for it here and there if you search. I haven't looked in years, but expect they are still around. There are a variety of interface boxes you can get for it, like video. That stuff is (or at least was) on eBay. First thing to do is find an enthusiast site for it and the various options, including how-to installs, options and Audi part numbers.
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This board really isn't it. RNS-E was used on cars like you reference, on the last of the C5 allroads, on the A3 (though hardly ever optioned up like that), and probably various other models. It was also used as a retrofit for Nav's on vehicles that used the old double DIN radio/CD/cassette (!) chassis like the D2 and the C5.

There are dedicated sites/pages for it here and there if you search. I haven't looked in years, but expect they are still around. There are a variety of interface boxes you can get for it, like video. That stuff is (or at least was) on eBay. First thing to do is find an enthusiast site for it and the various options, including how-to installs, options and Audi part numbers.
thanks. i knew it was a long shot but you just never know what info people may have.

i have posted it in the b7 section already just going to wait for replies.

ill also do what you said and post it in the forums that use rns-e.
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As I understand RNS-E is an integrated complete unit unlike MMI (individual components). By looking in the back of a RSN-E, there is no FBAS, so it must use pins-wires - Get the pins out of all the connectors.

1. Understand the muxing system - There's no download movies, music videos - what's your input device? The system is just a muxer to select what input device to display and play: CD, Interfaces, TV, etc.
2. What type of connection accepted via: wires, MOST optical, Canbus?
3. Select the correct type, make connections from RNS-E to the input devices and they should work.

This is the reason why Kutafec exists to make these interface to help you to add input devices easily (but not painlessly because it costs money).

If you're not technically inclined, go to Kutafec and buy their setup for a specific integration, but first, you need to find out what input device you need to integrate to the system.

The best is to find out how to connect iphone or ipod touch or android devices through bluetooth to watch videos from these devices as many people "claimed" working. Google is your friend.

Cheers,

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in which way does your BS reply help me?!

i told you before if you have nothing helpful to say dont say it you idiot.

i asked how do i get an av input install or be able to watch videos via the system and you just reply with rubbish.

like i said your not helpful and many people will agree with me and stop posting unrelated info.

all your doing is replying with questions to a question when i need answers or advice.

so stop being a deuce and trying to act clever.
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Kind of sleepy but if you go back a page or two and a few years in time as far as the posts you might find a few hints either about the system, or maybe where else to look.

http://forums.audiworld.com/forumdisplay.php?f=118
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Carterleeds,

I have to say that YOU are way out of line !

If you read what Louis wrote, you would see that he is trying to help you by giving you some ideas on where to look, like Kufatec.

like this,
http://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/volksw...-o-oem-control

or go get a oem TV tuner for that specific vehicle and use the RCA A/V inputs for what ever you want to input, this has been covered here in much detail by Louis and myself very recently.

I am here to help and so is Louis as I am sure many others are, but comment like YOURS make one feel like saying screw this, and then they stop helping, all because YOU could not grasp the content of what someone is relaying to YOU .....


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in which way does your BS reply help me?!

i told you before if you have nothing helpful to say dont say it you idiot.

i asked how do i get an av input install or be able to watch videos via the system and you just reply with rubbish.

like i said your not helpful and many people will agree with me and stop posting unrelated info.

all your doing is replying with questions to a question when i need answers or advice.

so stop being a deuce and trying to act clever.
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It was a rainy SAT on a not too busy intersection of a very nice blvd famous with nice cars, a panhandler with a sign on the chest "need money for coked up brother".
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-Why don't you give your brother your money?
Panhandler - But I don't have any money.
-How can you help someone if you're not capable of doing the deed?
Panhandler - Stop the BS and just give me the money.
-Instead of standing here hoping someone will give you some money, why don't you go to work and get the money to give it to him.
Panhandler - What BS with work, how does work bring money?
-Your gesture is very heroic, but all heroic acts often require sacrifices.
Panhandler - What sacrifices, stop the BS and just give me the money so I can help my brother - Stop with all these "know it all" questions. Just give the darn money - OLD MAN.

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Thats what I did on my old B6 long time ago
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Carterleeds,

I have to say that YOU are way out of line !

If you read what Louis wrote, you would see that he is trying to help you by giving you some ideas on where to look, like Kufatec.

like this,
http://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/volksw...-o-oem-control

or go get a oem TV tuner for that specific vehicle and use the RCA A/V inputs for what ever you want to input, this has been covered here in much detail by Louis and myself very recently.

I am here to help and so is Louis as I am sure many others are, but comment like YOURS make one feel like saying screw this, and then they stop helping, all because YOU could not grasp the content of what someone is relaying to YOU .....

it clearly says a/v input and the question is, what options i have?!!!!

im sure many others have inboxed me congratulating me for calling out louis and his retardism unrelated info posting.

look in simple terms, if you cannot answer the question then dont reply. why do you feel the need to reply with unrelated info. and before you answer ask yourself has you or louis told me anything to do with an A/V instal or advised me if could install A/V inputs with or wihtout a tv tuner or options i have for an A/V instal?
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Carterleeds,

I am a little bothered by your tone, I believe we spoke before on the phone {I could be wrong} and your attitude here is somewhat out of character, YOU want help and yet your acting like an ***, YES I did give you an option on how to get A/V input into your brother's RNS-E, I said plain and simple "go get a OEM TV tuner for that specific vehicle and use the RCA A/V inputs for what ever you want to input", do you want me to spell out the whole job for you, of just give you an option like I already did, a quick Google search will render great answers like these below.

OEM TV Tuner for B7 is ANALOGUE TV RECEIVER 4D0 919 146 D

Then a search on Ebay will yield you these items, then find the pin outs and make your own cables or buy one from Kufatec as I stated in my previous post.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_tr...at=0&_from=R40


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/06-AUDI-S4...item2eb2448f24


Also everything Louis stated is valuable information, it's part of what makes things work, and it also opens up people's minds to how things work which in turn an other person will come up with some ideas, if it was so simple, YOU would not be here asking for options, or maybe YOU would.

Also check out this thread.

http://audiforum.us/threads/a4-avant...retrofit.5665/


pin outs for rns-e

"two different pin outs for the TV tuner,"

Version 1)

Contacts which are not listed are not used.
1 – Ground
2 - CAN Bus Low (BOSCH) (from RNS-E Infotainment)
3 - CAN Bus High (BOSCH) (from RNS-E Infotainment)
4 - Audio screen (front) (not used)
5 - Audio output (right front)
6 - Audio earth (not used)
7 - Audio output (left front)
8 - Audio earth
9 - Screen earth (front)
10 - Video screen (front)
11 - Video output sync. (front)
12 - Video earth
13 - Video output (blue, front)
14 - Video earth
15 - Video output (green, front)
16 - Video earth
17 - Video output (red, front)
19 - Terminal 31
20 - Terminal 30
21 - L-diagnosis
22 - Audio output (–), rear right (not used)
23 - Audio output (+), rear right (not used)
24 - Audio screen (rear) (not used)
25 - Audio output (–), rear left (not used)
26 - Audio output (+), rear left (not used)
27 - Screen earth (rear) (not used)
28 - Com. Sync. (–), rear (not used)
29 - Com. Sync. (+), rear (not used)
30 - Signal (–) blue, rear (not used)
31 - Signal (+) blue, rear (not used)
32 - Signal (–) green, rear (not used)
33 - Signal (+) green, rear (not used)
34 - Signal (–) red, rear (not used)
35 - Signal (+) red, rear (not used)
36 - Video screen (rear) (not used)
40 - Audio input (–), rear left (not used)
41 - Audio input (–), rear right (not used)
42 - AV earth input (rear) (not used)
43 - S-VHS input (Y) rear (not used)
44 - S-VHS input (C) rear (not used)
45 - CVBS input rear (not used)
46 - Complete screen AV input rear
47 - Audio input (–), front left (not used)
48 - Audio input (–), front right (not used)
49 - AV earth input (front) (not used)
50 - S-VHS input (Y) front (not used)
51 - S-VHS input (C) front (not used)
52 - CVBS input front (not used)
53 - Complete screen AV input front

Version 2)
1 - CAN bus ground
2 - CAN bus Low
3 - CAN bus High
4 - Audio ground front
5 - Audio right front, positive
6 - Audio right front, negative
7 - Audio left front, positive
8 - Audio left front, negative
9 - A/V complete display front
10 - Video monitor front
11 - Not assigned
12 - Not assigned
13 - Not assigned
14 - Not assigned
15 - Video -C- front, positive
16 - Video -C- front, negative
17 - Video -Y- front, positive
18 - Video -Y- front, negative
19 - Vehicle Ground (GND)
20 - Terminal 30 (continuous B+)
21 - Not assigned
22 - Audio right rear, negative
23 - Audio right rear, positive
24 - Audio ground rear
25 - Audio left rear, negative
26 - Audio left rear, positive
27 - A/V complete display rear
28 - Not assigned
29 - Not assigned
30 - Not assigned
31 - Not assigned
32 - Video -C- rear, positive
33 - Video -C- rear, negative
34 - Video -Y- rear, positive
35 - Video -Y- rear, negative
36 - Video ground
37 - internally assigned
38 - internally assigned
39 - internally assigned
40 - Audio left rear, external connection option
41 - Audio right rear, external connection option
42 - Audio/Video ground rear, external connection option
43 - Super Video System rear, external connection option
44 - Super Video System rear, external connection option
45 - CVBS rear, external connection option
46 - Complete audio/video shielding rear, external connection option
47 - Audio left front, external connection option
48 - Audio right front, external connection option
49 - Audio/Video ground front, external connection option
50 - Super Video System front, external connection option
51 - Super Video System front, external connection option
52 - CVBS front, external connection option
53 - Complete audio/video shielding front, external connection option
54 - Not assigned


NOW was that so hard, now why don't you put away your attitude and take what people give you and think, instead of acting like we are wasting your time, WE are the one's here trying to help YOU !!!!

Johnny J J





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it clearly says a/v input and the question is, what options i have?!!!!

im sure many others have inboxed me congratulating me for calling out louis and his retardism unrelated info posting.

look in simple terms, if you cannot answer the question then dont reply. why do you feel the need to reply with unrelated info. and before you answer ask yourself has you or louis told me anything to do with an A/V instal or advised me if could install A/V inputs with or wihtout a tv tuner or options i have for an A/V instal?

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Carterleeds,

I am a little bothered by your tone, I believe we spoke before on the phone {I could be wrong} and your attitude here is somewhat out of character, YOU want help and yet your acting like an ***, YES I did give you an option on how to get A/V input into your brother's RNS-E, I said plain and simple "go get a OEM TV tuner for that specific vehicle and use the RCA A/V inputs for what ever you want to input", do you want me to spell out the whole job for you, of just give you an option like I already did, a quick Google search will render great answers like these below.

OEM TV Tuner for B7 is ANALOGUE TV RECEIVER 4D0 919 146 D

Then a search on Ebay will yield you these items, then find the pin outs and make your own cables or buy one from Kufatec as I stated in my previous post.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_tr...at=0&_from=R40


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/06-AUDI-S4...item2eb2448f24


Also everything Louis stated is valuable information, it's part of what makes things work, and it also opens up people's minds to how things work which in turn an other person will come up with some ideas, if it was so simple, YOU would not be here asking for options, or maybe YOU would.

Also check out this thread.

http://audiforum.us/threads/a4-avant...retrofit.5665/


pin outs for rns-e

"two different pin outs for the TV tuner,"

Version 1)

Contacts which are not listed are not used.
1 – Ground
2 - CAN Bus Low (BOSCH) (from RNS-E Infotainment)
3 - CAN Bus High (BOSCH) (from RNS-E Infotainment)
4 - Audio screen (front) (not used)
5 - Audio output (right front)
6 - Audio earth (not used)
7 - Audio output (left front)
8 - Audio earth
9 - Screen earth (front)
10 - Video screen (front)
11 - Video output sync. (front)
12 - Video earth
13 - Video output (blue, front)
14 - Video earth
15 - Video output (green, front)
16 - Video earth
17 - Video output (red, front)
19 - Terminal 31
20 - Terminal 30
21 - L-diagnosis
22 - Audio output (–), rear right (not used)
23 - Audio output (+), rear right (not used)
24 - Audio screen (rear) (not used)
25 - Audio output (–), rear left (not used)
26 - Audio output (+), rear left (not used)
27 - Screen earth (rear) (not used)
28 - Com. Sync. (–), rear (not used)
29 - Com. Sync. (+), rear (not used)
30 - Signal (–) blue, rear (not used)
31 - Signal (+) blue, rear (not used)
32 - Signal (–) green, rear (not used)
33 - Signal (+) green, rear (not used)
34 - Signal (–) red, rear (not used)
35 - Signal (+) red, rear (not used)
36 - Video screen (rear) (not used)
40 - Audio input (–), rear left (not used)
41 - Audio input (–), rear right (not used)
42 - AV earth input (rear) (not used)
43 - S-VHS input (Y) rear (not used)
44 - S-VHS input (C) rear (not used)
45 - CVBS input rear (not used)
46 - Complete screen AV input rear
47 - Audio input (–), front left (not used)
48 - Audio input (–), front right (not used)
49 - AV earth input (front) (not used)
50 - S-VHS input (Y) front (not used)
51 - S-VHS input (C) front (not used)
52 - CVBS input front (not used)
53 - Complete screen AV input front

Version 2)
1 - CAN bus ground
2 - CAN bus Low
3 - CAN bus High
4 - Audio ground front
5 - Audio right front, positive
6 - Audio right front, negative
7 - Audio left front, positive
8 - Audio left front, negative
9 - A/V complete display front
10 - Video monitor front
11 - Not assigned
12 - Not assigned
13 - Not assigned
14 - Not assigned
15 - Video -C- front, positive
16 - Video -C- front, negative
17 - Video -Y- front, positive
18 - Video -Y- front, negative
19 - Vehicle Ground (GND)
20 - Terminal 30 (continuous B+)
21 - Not assigned
22 - Audio right rear, negative
23 - Audio right rear, positive
24 - Audio ground rear
25 - Audio left rear, negative
26 - Audio left rear, positive
27 - A/V complete display rear
28 - Not assigned
29 - Not assigned
30 - Not assigned
31 - Not assigned
32 - Video -C- rear, positive
33 - Video -C- rear, negative
34 - Video -Y- rear, positive
35 - Video -Y- rear, negative
36 - Video ground
37 - internally assigned
38 - internally assigned
39 - internally assigned
40 - Audio left rear, external connection option
41 - Audio right rear, external connection option
42 - Audio/Video ground rear, external connection option
43 - Super Video System rear, external connection option
44 - Super Video System rear, external connection option
45 - CVBS rear, external connection option
46 - Complete audio/video shielding rear, external connection option
47 - Audio left front, external connection option
48 - Audio right front, external connection option
49 - Audio/Video ground front, external connection option
50 - Super Video System front, external connection option
51 - Super Video System front, external connection option
52 - CVBS front, external connection option
53 - Complete audio/video shielding front, external connection option
54 - Not assigned


NOW was that so hard, now why don't you put away your attitude and take what people give you and think, instead of acting like we are wasting your time, WE are the one's here trying to help YOU !!!!

Johnny J J
thank you for the help.

you had helped me with my MMI a/v install, which i carried out successfully due to your DIY threads.

and i did not know if i needed a tv tuner or not because i had said "i dont think it has one" and no one helped me out, maybe i missed something or wasnt pushing the right button. i know everything now thanks to you guys about the MMI system but did not know if the RNS-E was any different or the same.

a little guidence of the system would of been helpful.

if you or louis replied with "you need a tv tuner for the av install" then i would of gone onto kufatec get a wiring harness or ebay it, same with the tuner and any other items i would of needed i would of googled but i had no where to start, hence not being able to google anything.

i googled RNS-E A/V instal and could not find one single thing, everyone talked about iphone/ipod etc which was of no use because i already have a iphone dock installed.
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