A couple of days ago, I noticed that my car was running hot. (The fan was running high speed...in Chicago...in the winter). Fortunately, I caught the needle before it reached the "H" and I was able to turn the heat on full blast and return the needle to the midpoint long enough to get home. Suspecting the thermostat, I brought it to the dealer this morning. I just got a call from the dealer confirming the thermostat as the issue and quoting me $2450 to replace it (along with the timing belt). Pricewise, does this sound about right? Is this too complicated a procedure for a non-dealer mechanic to handle?
Let's see, sounds like your car is out of warranty.....so it's probably an 04 or maybe an 05.
The Bently states that you have to removed the "toothed" belt which is the timing belt. To change a timing belt, water pump and thermostat, it should be around $1200 or less on a D2 A8. $2450 sound ridiculously high to me.
They say you have to removed the toothed belt on the D2 40v motors to change the thermostat, however somebody just posted today that they did it by just removing the tension off the timing belt. Don't know if that's possible or not. Here is the thread.
I would contact Al at Chicago Performance and Tuning if the car is out of warranty. He's an ex Audi mechanic that works on performance and Audi cars. Total attention to detail, goes above the call of duty and if anything ever goes wrong or isn't right, he will make it right, you just let him know. Check out the Chicago forum for references to CPT. There price is probably half the cost, or maybe they can do it without taking the timing belt off.
Here's one picture of the outside of CPT, he does do a lot of B5 S4 work.....
This happen to me too and fortunately, it was still in warranty. They said the thermostate was in the " stuck " position and my temp gauge went crazy. The price does sound too high, I would look into getting prices from shops that specializes in German cars.
I didn't pay for mine, but the work order showed removal of quite a few parts to get at the thermostat and the car was there for two days. I would also recommend an independent shop. This is one of the things that causes poor resale value for used and out of warranty Audis.
Anything over $800 is extremely high!!! I had mine replaced about 6 months ago down in florida (on a family vacation) The part itself it less than one hundred dollars, the labor it what eats you up. But if your car is aproaching 100k, a timing belt is always reccommend. That particular service is close to $2100 by itself
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I had this done this summer, covered under my 3rd party warranty company--they were billed around $900 for thermostat replacement labor and parts. Again, another mother fckin greedy audi dealer trying to rape you, UNBELIEVABLE!!!
Now if they are changing the Time Belt and pump as well, $2450 is about right.
I was quoted $1750 for timing belt, thermostat, water pump and serpintine belt replacement. The front end of the car has to be removed. Labor is not cheap. Plus, if they get a tooth wrong, they pay for the bent valves etc!
£150 does not seem correct for a D3 4.2L gasoline engine. The thermostat is easier to replace on the diesel engines.
It is not the car it is the engine. It is the 4.2 V8 engine that cost more. In order to replace the thermostat, the dealer has to pull off the bumper and swing open a the radiator. The labor that is involved in doing that, you might as well pay for the full timing belt replacement (i.e water pump, pulleys, belts, hoses, thermostat). It would not be smart to say pay 1800 to just replace one part. The dealer is actually saving you money by doing it all in one shot.
Stay away from the dealer. Find a trusted independant mechanic that knows Audis well. You will still want to get the timing belt service. May cost 1500 to 1700. Ask around on the board to find a local audi mechanic in your area.
Auto Centro is a really good place in the D.C. metro area. Family business and have been working on Audis for more than 30 years. They are better than the dealers.
The Audi tech knew, skipping unnecessary steps means less work but more book hours.
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