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Old 03-18-2014, 06:55 AM   #1
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I'm looking for confirmation about an 'electronic brake controller' (EBC) unit. I called Audi and they told me that with the towing packing, it comes with the controller unit for trailer, part #4E0907383J. Is this equivalent to an electronic brake controller that I would buy off the shelf? Or would I still need to purchase an EBC?

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I'm looking for confirmation about an 'electronic brake controller' (EBC) unit. I called Audi and they told me that with the towing packing, it comes with the controller unit for trailer, part #4E0907383J. Is this equivalent to an electronic brake controller that I would buy off the shelf? Or would I still need to purchase an EBC?

http://www.partsbase.org/audi/audi-q...aud-4e0907383j

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I'm looking in to this myself also. I don't believe that part replaces an aftermarket electronic break controller. If this part does, it doesn't seem to have the manual break that the aftermarket ones do. Once it gets warmer here in Canada, I want to peek under my dash to see if the q7 has the same plug as my 2010 q5 did. If so, I'll be wiring in an aftermarket controller.
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Thanks. All things are pointing towards purchasing an EBC, which I can do, I just didn't want to do this if was unnecessary. My initial thought was the unit I mentioned 'tells' the Q7 a trailer is being towed and it enters a 'tow-mode'. I'm finding it difficult to believe this is the case. Audi said it's a plug and play system and all I need to do is plug in the trailer and it works. However, I am thinking the EBC is plug and play to the connector under the dash, then it works.
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Thanks. All things are pointing towards purchasing an EBC, which I can do, I just didn't want to do this if was unnecessary. My initial thought was the unit I mentioned 'tells' the Q7 a trailer is being towed and it enters a 'tow-mode'. I'm finding it difficult to believe this is the case. Audi said it's a plug and play system and all I need to do is plug in the trailer and it works. However, I am thinking the EBC is plug and play to the connector under the dash, then it works.
I just remembered this, in the owners manual is states that the un-brake tow max is 1600lbs so the dealer is incorrect if they state that the tow logic box does it all. Also, the tow logic box isn't plug and play. It plugs in easy enough, but the car still needs to be configured for it. Also, unless you ask the dealer to update your profile, it will wipe those settings at almost every service. I payed $100 to get mine added permanently on my q5. All this has nothing to do with the electronic brake controller.

Once I figure out the plug for the ebc, I'll post it.
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Thanks. I'm headed to the dealership tomorrow to pick up the 7 pin adapter (one would think it would come with the tow package). I'll confirm and try to get them to update the profile at the same time.

There is suppose to be an adapter/connector from the plug under the dash to the EBC, but I can't find it on the net. Did you come across the PN in your research?
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Thanks. I'm headed to the dealership tomorrow to pick up the 7 pin adapter (one would think it would come with the tow package). I'll confirm and try to get them to update the profile at the same time.

There is suppose to be an adapter/connector from the plug under the dash to the EBC, but I can't find it on the net. Did you come across the PN in your research?
Well I think there's a plug under the dash also but I haven't looked yet. I'm also hoping the connector is the same as my Q5 because if it is, I already have the cable (I made one). If it is the same, the part number for the female part is 1J0 972 782 (assuming it's a 0(zero) and not an O(letter).

The part is like $3-$8 I think and if it's the same, I can share picks of the cable.

Right now I'm trying to decide where to mount the EBC.
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I found that connector on a pdf file (http://forums.audiworld.com/showthread.php?p=24520084) post#2 TB0021 Installing Electric Brake.pdf). The connector and the wires 000-979-228 (2 ea). The wires I can make on my own. The connector I can pick up from the dealership or a VW dealership locally. I would definitely like to see the pictures of the connector.
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Yes, you need to purchase an aftermarket Electronic Brake Controller.

Here is how you wire it. The prewired connector is tucked up above and behind the OBDII socket in the driver's footwell.
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I went to a VW dealership this morning and picked up the connector referenced in the pdf. They didn't have the wires, but I'll check at the Audi dealership when I head that way this afternoon. I assume Audi and VW PN will be the same for the wires.

I removed the kick plate/panel last night and as soon as it dropped down, I saw the connector with the gray protector. Looks real easy to build the connector and hook up the PRIMUS IQ EBC.

One thing I did notice in the pdf, the Red/Yellow wire, in my 2012 Q7, it's a Red/White stripe. All other colors matched up just fine.

I appreciate the help.

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I went to a VW dealership this morning and picked up the connector referenced in the pdf. They didn't have the wires, but I'll check at the Audi dealership when I head that way this afternoon. I assume Audi and VW PN will be the same for the wires.

I removed the kick plate/panel last night and as soon as it dropped down, I saw the connector with the gray protector. Looks real easy to build the connector and hook up the PRIMUS IQ EBC.

One thing I did notice in the pdf, the Red/Yellow wire, in my 2012 Q7, it's a Red/White stripe. All other colors matched up just fine.

I appreciate the help.

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Audi, Porsche and VW are all the same.

I had a different wire color, too, in my 2010 Q7; but it worked A-OK.
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I was able to get everything installed last night with success. I'm picking up the camper today and I'll see how it goes.
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I was able to get everything installed last night with success. I'm picking up the camper today and I'll see how it goes.
sweet! What type of camper do you have? I would recommend a wifi camera to see in back of you also. I'm using one from 4ucam.

Would also love you see where you mounted the brake controller. Haven't decided where to mount yet.
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sweet! Would also love you see where you mounted the brake controller. Haven't decided where to mount yet.
Here it was on my 2010 Q7.
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It's a StarCraft 13RT off-road popup. I thought about the camera, but haven't gone any further than that. I saw talk in one of the forums that the 'backup' camera should be available when towing a trailer. I'm sure the fix is coming down the pipe.

I'll get a picture to show the location. For the EBC mounting, I used heavy duty Velcro in lieu of mounting with screws. My wife didn't care to make holes in 'her' vehicle for the mounting location. Plus, it's easier to remove and stow the mounting bracket and unit when not in use.
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I put mine on the right side, but same horizontal level. Must be my dominant side. I didn't need to buy the wires to reach the Audi side connector; the wires from the unit and Audi side connector did reach each other. Though, I did buy the connector referenced in the pdf and used the male pins from my tool chest for the connector.
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I have the camera enabled with the trailer attached.

When I installed the tow bar, I didn't follow the entire list of changes to allow it to stay working as well as side assist and the reversing sensors - they are a bit of a nuisance but I did not want to lose the camera and I didn't have time to go through and sift out what I could change to disable those but leave the camera active.
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I'll look into this. I probably won't be able to get to it before we head out on the road tomorrow. Would be nice if Audi would provide an update to do the things you described. In today's modern, technologically advanced world, seems it wouldn't be too difficult to do.
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It's a StarCraft 13RT off-road popup. I thought about the camera, but haven't gone any further than that. I saw talk in one of the forums that the 'backup' camera should be available when towing a trailer. I'm sure the fix is coming down the pipe.

I'll get a picture to show the location. For the EBC mounting, I used heavy duty Velcro in lieu of mounting with screws. My wife didn't care to make holes in 'her' vehicle for the mounting location. Plus, it's easier to remove and stow the mounting bracket and unit when not in use.
For my Q5 I mounted it in the ask tray (made it removable when not in use and with the ash tray reinserted, you coulnt' tell. I dont really want to do that again though. I too like your wife don't like the idea of screwing through the pannel of my new car.

I'm thinking about making a bracket that will allow for the break controller to slide on and off, and when off (disconnected) would have a minimal foot print.

As for the back up cam, my stock rear view cam still works showing me the trailer connected to my Q, but I bought the rearview cam from 4UCam to mount on the bakc of my travel trailer allowing me to use it as my rearview mirror so to speak. I don't know about the Q7, but the Q5 mirrors didn't stick out far enough and there was no real options for extentending them with add ons. with the 4UCam, I can (will) see the traffic in back of my trailer for safe lane changes and also allow me to back up in a camp spot without backing in to a tree or a kids bike .
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This connector?

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I just got it last night, put it in tonight in our (new to us) '07 4.2 Premium.
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