geng77

I just built a fully loaded XC90 online for 63k. There is no way the new Audi Q7 fully loaded can beat that price point. Volvo wins.

VAG-Fan1

That's interesting. I came in just a hair under $66k with the most expensive options and packages ticked. While it's a bit of an apples to oranges comparison in terms of a new Volvo vs. a retiring Audi platform, I did the same thing with the current Q7 and you get to $80k for a loaded TDI prestige. If you stick to a 3.0T Premium Plus and tick all the options (except the silly off-road style package), you are right under $60k. I think the new Q7 and XC90 pricing are going to line up nearly atop each other for the most popular selling trims.

In any case, until the next gen Q7 is "buildable" online and you can side-by-side compare features (not to mention see one in the flesh), I think it's a bit of a moot point to try to declare a "winner". The XC90 does look like it is going to be an excellent value, but I'm still struggling with the super high strung 4 banger strategy.

iconoclast

yeah but if you go to prestige and do the same you're over $75k.

VAG-Fan1

I did make reference to that effect in my post (i.e. loaded TDI Prestige = $80k), and this is where I think Audi has lost their way a bit. Up to maybe $60k-$65k, it seems like the Q7 is appropriately priced for the equipment you get. Beyond those numbers, IMO, you should be getting a physically larger vehicle- similar to an M-B GL or Escalade....

ltooz_a6_a8_q7

was really inferior to the Q7 when I got my 08. I've could gotten a V8 XC90 for $38k compared to $50k 3.6L premium.
The new one does look nice, the old one was much smaller than the Q7.

Cheers,

Louis

iconoclast

I had a moment to go play around with one of these today and I am in love...









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VAG-Fan1

Nice real world pics. Almost too "real" though in that it looks like it gets demo'd a fair bit and isn't routinely detailed, at least befitting the roped off status (plastic chain) it's getting at the dealer lot there. Don't touch it! You might leave finger prints or dust on it or actually open the door and soil the piano black trim!

All kidding aside (I realize they are trying maintain the hype machine), as nice as the interior looks to be executed in most areas, there are a few things that are a bit out of place to me. It looks like there are a few early teething pains on trim fits/gaps/finishes and the trim pc around the TFT instrument display makes it look like they could have fit a much larger display in there but didn't- guessing that's more of an optical illusion.

Still a pretty nice total package worth strong consideration....

ud1412v

I drove one at a special event and they are sweet. The only issue I have is they dont offer diesel in the US and tow capacity is bad. But if you dont care about those things it's a nice vehicle. Apparently next year it will get an upgraded engine capable of towing 7K per the representative.

geng77

all i can say is.. wow...

puregreddy

I know it's a non-trivial cleaning task, but the picture of the touch-screen is precisely the reason why touch-screens, IMO, are not such a great idea.

I prefer the airplane-cockpit-multiple-buttons-for-everything approach.......