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Old 08-12-2014, 05:30 PM   #1
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I'm trying to decide between a 2011 Q7 3.0t with 43k miles or a 2012 Q7 TDI with 49k miles. It will be my first luxury SUV. Both are CPO and both have premium plus pkg. I drive mostly in the city about 65 miles a day to and from work and shuttling kids. Which Q7 is your preference and why?
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Diesel is generally for long hauls, highway driving, road trips etc. If you're mileage is mainly comprised of city driving and commuting the benefits of diesel would be marginal and depending on your area the price of diesel may be more than the standard gasoline.

What is the price difference in the two? (Asking price. Not negotiated price.)
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Diesel is generally for long hauls, highway driving, road trips etc. If you're mileage is mainly comprised of city driving and commuting the benefits of diesel would be marginal and depending on your area the price of diesel may be more than the standard gasoline.

What is the price difference in the two? (Asking price. Not negotiated price.)
The 2011 gas is $41,500 and the 2012 TDI is $45,900.
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The diesel is probably a better deal in terms of $$.

What is the difference in fuel costs in your area (diesel vs. premium gas) ?

Do you tend to keep vehicles a long time? Would you keep the TDI beyond the CPO term?
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Recommend the TDI for better city/highway mileage and nice torque off the line which obviously negates the better mileage .... lol. I don't buy my cars based on mpg results.

Any incremental pricing over the regular gas version usually pays for itself if you plan on keeping the TDI longer.
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Just got a 2012 for the wife (3.0T) not bad I must say.


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Recommend the TDI for better city/highway mileage and nice torque off the line which obviously negates the better mileage .... lol. I don't buy my cars based on mpg results.

Any incremental pricing over the regular gas version usually pays for itself if you plan on keeping the TDI longer.
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Diesel is generally for long hauls, highway driving, road trips etc. If you're mileage is mainly comprised of city driving and commuting the benefits of diesel would be marginal and depending on your area the price of diesel may be more than the standard gasoline.

What is the price difference in the two? (Asking price. Not negotiated price.)
Does the gas engine not require Premium fuel (91 Octane)? If so, the difference in price should be negligible. I would think TDI would be much better in the long run in terms of resale value.
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Yes, the price diff at the pump is negligible. The city mpg diff is only 1 mpg, so that seems negligible too. I am a little heavy footed, which doesn't help..lol. Sounds like TDI will have better resale. If I start having problems close to the CPO expiration,
I'll get rid of it. Thanks for all the feedback. I'm having a case of analysis paralysis. The in service date difference is only 4 months between the two cars. The gas is black metallic (orca I think) and the diesel is a dark grey metallic. I am partial to the black.
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I don't buy my cars based on mpg results.
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One of the advantages of the TDI is greater range (fewer stops to fill up) - more important to many of us than greater MPG. Thus about 25% of Q7 are purchased with TDI engines.
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Does the gas engine not require Premium fuel (91 Octane)? If so, the difference in price should be negligible. I would think TDI would be much better in the long run in terms of resale value.
depends on the area... in some states it is cheaper than 93 in others it is more... unfortunately i am in one of the areas that generally there is a .10-.20c premium over shell93 v-power. the last time i filled up 93 was 4.539 and diesel was 4.739. i owned a v10 touareg when prices were insane and while it was relatively good on fuel for a 10 cylinder it still pinched a bit when i had to refill a 26gallon tank at just about $5 a gallon.
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I just got a 2014 Q7 TDI and I have to say I am impressed. I've driven ~250 miles and the fuel gauge is still slightly above half full. I'd already be at the gas station with my 2001 allroad. Very nice and torque-y too -
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I evaluated both, chose the TDI, and am very happy. The extra torque really makes a difference given the substantial curb weight. When I test drove the 3.0T, it felt under-powered compared to the TDI off the line. The torquey-ness can really be felt when the transmission is in Sport mode. I consistently get 30mpg on the highway, which is noticeably higher than the original estimates. I can't think of any other SUV's with the same capacity and capability for the same gas mileage.
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TDI for the torque! The better mpg is an added bonus.
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Don't forget, the Q7 has about half again the fuel capacity!
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i don't think anyone can forget... get hit at the pump with 20-22gallons the first few times reminds you to fill up at quarter or half tank.
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I have the tdi ('13) and live in a dense urban environment...love the torque...and highly recommend. However, the diesel engine takes a LONG time to get to temperature....and many of our brief trips (a couple of miles back and forth to grocery) yield 10-13 mpg....having said that I'm still averaging 23mpg combined overall...and love road trips in excess of 30 mpg with no stops for 600 miles + for refueling.
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huge issue along with long winters and very deep temperatures means the engine and heater take a long time to warm up... i recall reading on here and a few other places that many people had issues with the car's cabin getting warm in a reasonable amount time during the winter.
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No issue with TDI keeping warm last winter or starting up in -10 weather. The steering wheel is heated too Overall, I can't complain about the Q7 or Q5 TDI. The A6 TDI in my opinion is the one to own if you don't need a SUV. It was fast off the line and very fuel efficient. Highway trips, the Q7 TDI easily gets 30+mpg depending on your driving style and road condition. 35MPG was the highest I've seen.
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I'm trying to decide between a 2011 Q7 3.0t with 43k miles or a 2012 Q7 TDI with 49k miles. It will be my first luxury SUV. Both are CPO and both have premium plus pkg. I drive mostly in the city about 65 miles a day to and from work and shuttling kids. Which Q7 is your preference and why?
I have had a very bad experience with my Q7 TDI. Took it to the Audi dealership for service because it would not drive faster than 10 mph. It is still at the service center since May 27. More than 3 months ago! They still cannot figure out how to fix the problem. Based on this ongoing experience, I would avoid the TDI.
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I have had a very bad experience with my Q7 TDI. Took it to the Audi dealership for service because it would not drive faster than 10 mph. It is still at the service center since May 27. More than 3 months ago! They still cannot figure out how to fix the problem. Based on this ongoing experience, I would avoid the TDI.
I would certainly start a Lemon Law litigation, if it were mine.
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