Tire Rotation on 10k service?
#11
AudiWorld Senior Member
Is the "can knocking" for you that subtle cluck sound some of us discussed a while back coming from what sounds like the brake area while rolling up a stop? If so, curious to here what your service dept says. Keep us posted. Thanks!!
#12
AudiWorld Super User
This would indicate that all four tires should be replaced at the same time when possible. If one tire is damaged and there is enough tread left on the other three, if necessary, it can be shaved down to match.
#13
AudiWorld Senior Member
To clarify, the manual states that all four tires should be of the same size, brand and model to avoid damaging the Quattro system and for safety from tires of different driving characteristics. Further, there are many articles online that discuss that the tire tread depths on all wheel drive vehicles should be within 2/32" inch of one another for similar reasons.
This would indicate that all four tires should be replaced at the same time when possible. If one tire is damaged and there is enough tread left on the other three, if necessary, it can be shaved down to match.
This would indicate that all four tires should be replaced at the same time when possible. If one tire is damaged and there is enough tread left on the other three, if necessary, it can be shaved down to match.
Last edited by Bozman5000; 03-20-2017 at 10:58 AM.
#14
AudiWorld Super User
- All four wheels must be fitted with radial tires of the same type, size (rolling circumference) and the same tread pattern.
- Tires should be replaced at least in pairs and not individually (for example both front tires or both rear tires together).
So, the first one implies that tires should have equal wear, otherwise the rolling circumference will be different, however, the second one implies that you don't have to necessary replace all 4 tires at the same time, however, if wear is different that would conflict with the first sentence. There are owners on here that have at one point not replaced all four tires at the same time and as a result the ESP went bonkers. YMMV.
#16
AudiWorld Senior Member
I haven't seen Audi state the accepted tolerance anywhere, however, dealers say within 3/32" and I've read in other places 4/32". I don't know what your owner's manual says, but I found the following two relevant sentences in my owner's manual for my RS5.
- All four wheels must be fitted with radial tires of the same type, size (rolling circumference) and the same tread pattern.
- Tires should be replaced at least in pairs and not individually (for example both front tires or both rear tires together).
So, the first one implies that tires should have equal wear, otherwise the rolling circumference will be different, however, the second one implies that you don't have to necessary replace all 4 tires at the same time, however, if wear is different that would conflict with the first sentence. There are owners on here that have at one point not replaced all four tires at the same time and as a result the ESP went bonkers. YMMV.
- All four wheels must be fitted with radial tires of the same type, size (rolling circumference) and the same tread pattern.
- Tires should be replaced at least in pairs and not individually (for example both front tires or both rear tires together).
So, the first one implies that tires should have equal wear, otherwise the rolling circumference will be different, however, the second one implies that you don't have to necessary replace all 4 tires at the same time, however, if wear is different that would conflict with the first sentence. There are owners on here that have at one point not replaced all four tires at the same time and as a result the ESP went bonkers. YMMV.
#17
AudiWorld Senior Member
I'm also not sure what you mean by taking risks when I've already stated I'm going by what Audi recommends.
Last edited by Bozman5000; 03-20-2017 at 11:49 AM.
#18
AudiWorld Senior Member
Not going to argue any point over the internet but any AWD vehicle and the Quattro is even more complex than most needs to have the same rotation in order for the system to operate correctly.
I know what I know and I'm not here to prove anything to anybody, believe what you want to believe and have a great day!
I know what I know and I'm not here to prove anything to anybody, believe what you want to believe and have a great day!
#19
AudiWorld Senior Member
Not going to argue any point over the internet but any AWD vehicle and the Quattro is even more complex than most needs to have the same rotation in order for the system to operate correctly.
I know what I know and I'm not here to prove anything to anybody, believe what you want to believe and have a great day!
I know what I know and I'm not here to prove anything to anybody, believe what you want to believe and have a great day!
Ask yourself, if it 'needs rotation' why doesn't Audi include that in the servicing?
Have a good one.
Last edited by Bozman5000; 03-20-2017 at 11:57 AM.
#20
AudiWorld Super User
Here are a few articles, not just forum post opinions. They essentially all say the same thing - excessive rolling diameter differences can cause damage to the power train of all-wheel drive systems:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret...jsp?techid=18&
Tires 101 on Tire Matching on All Wheel and Four Wheel Drive :: Souza's Tire Service
Tires for All-Wheel drive vehicle, Beware!
Auto Tips: Tires, tread depth and all wheel drive | The Chronicle Herald