AndrewT

doesn't include 1993-1996 S4/S6? Its still an S4, isnt it? I'm not telling you how to run this site, I have no complaints, its just a suggestion.

-andrewt

Jason Teller

This is the perfect place for folks with the "older" S4 to chat as well. We just don't have the specs online. We haven't tried to be a historical reference... yet :-)

Jason

Adam T

I hope people don't get discouraged from posting info/questions about earlier S4s. These cars are still great automobiles and should be discussed hear along with the bi-turbo S4.

Adam T
00 S4 Cactus green
October?

robfox

"For discussion of the Audi S4 model, from 1998-present"

Quoted from the page with the list of forums.

-rob

Jason Teller

I'll fix that right now.

Jason

Todd W

Someone called them the Ur-S4's, should we make it the official distinction???

Jimmy Pribble

this has become accepted practice on both the quattro List and the S-Cars Online Discussion Group. It really makes things much easier.

As an owner and proponent of the original S4, I would love to see more discussion on that model, just because I think most org.ers still don't know that much about it.

Regards,

Jimmy<ul><li><a href="http://pweb.netcom.com/~jkp.mail/index.html">Jimmy's Audi S4 quattro Pages</a></li></ul>

Todd W

I don't fit in them and they cost too much for the performance (my 5ktq is at least as fast as an UrS4 and a lot cheaper, in fact I might be faster than a chipped UrS4). A 91 200q 20vt would be the ticket, despite having the old style climate control.

If you could find decent ones for less than $20K, then I would consider them again.

Todd W

Jimmy Pribble

There is no way that your 5ktq is as fast as an UrS4, unless you have made modifications. Here are the stock numbers for the UrS4:

HP:227
Torque:258lb/ft (same as new S4, BTW)
0-60:6.1 sec. (from C&D)
Top Speed (after you unplug the gov.):152mph (from Audi)

Needless to say, a chipped S4 (which takes the horsepower to 270-280) will get to 60 in the 5's. That is before any serious modifications. 330+hp is not uncommon in the S4 world.

The '91 200tq comes close to the stock numbers, but not quite:
(all from C&D)
HP:217
Torque:227lb/ft
0-60:6.8 sec.

Also, I just picked up my S4 for $16,500. It being "decent" or not, is open to debate. Check the link to decide for yourself.

I hope this didn't come off as being too obnoxious. I don't typically get into the "my car is faster than your car" thing. It's nothing personal; facts are just facts.

Love a good debate,

Jimmy<ul><li><a href="http://pweb.netcom.com/~jkp.mail/index.html">Jimmy's Audi S4 quattro Pages</a></li></ul>

Todd W

Sorry, didn't mean to get competitive. My point is that my 5ktq was as fast as a stock UrS4, and it will be as fast as a chipped UrS4 soon. It doesn't have the wide torque band of the UrS4, but it weighs 500lbs less. And I have not put $15K into it. The UrS4 is capable of a lot more, 450hp without opening the engine, but I can't afford those mods. I wanted to put an UrS4 engine in my UrQ, but now I am leaning towards a 1.8T conversion in hopes of saving weight.

The UrS4's are much better cars than my 5ktq in many ways, but in the end I can't justify the extra cost.

Todd W