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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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Just got back my wife's '98 A4 2.8 quattro sport suspension with 2 new Dunlop asym sport 5000 tires.

1. The shop (Direct Tire Watertown MA) insists that both new tires should go on rear for safety - huh?

2. Front left camber is -1.29, just inside of spec -1.3 to -0.4. Is this good enough? They claimed they adjusted camber as much as possible. Cross camber is within spec.

3. Total rear toe of 0.08 in. is outside of spec 0.10 to 0.43. Can rear toe be adjusted? Is this good enough?

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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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Default It seems the old rule of thumb that says better tires should go up front is wrong

you want better grip on the tires you don't steer with and have less weight on. That's just what I've read.
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Bad Science.
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Default have you seen the video of Michelin's testing?

<ul><li><a href="http://www.michelinman.com/tire-care/tire-basics/reartire-change/">http://www.michelinman.com/tire-care/tire-basics/reartire-change/</a</li></ul>
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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Default Lol.....well, how does the rule apply with AWD vehicles ? and why are

all American car announcers/spokespeople so dorky and androgynous looking?
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Default good question. I'd assume you wouldn't want to apply any rule to AWD, as the tires should be close

and you should be rotating them regularly. 2nd question, lol, I don't know, either
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Default I'd like to hear from anyone here whose car tailspins in rain. Mine don't. I rotate for seasons.

I rotate the good tires up front for winter. People rotate often for "even wear" but nobody defines "even wear". Is it "eve"n wear across the tire tread? I get that regardless of time and postion on the car. I have 5 mounted sets outside for 2 cars, NONE have "uneven wear". Does even wear mean all 4 tires wear an even amount? I guess.

So, is "even" even better? I don't think so. The ideal being all tread the same....modelled ideally as 50%f/50%r. Well, I'd rather have 60f/40r, or even 70/30 if it's winter. Fark, how would I even get moving with 5/32nds of tread in snow. I'd rather be rolling with 7/32f. It's a common sense thing. Weight transfers up front braking and all the steering is done up there. How can LESS grip up front be worse unless the driver is a total spastic idiot like in the vids? Hmm? How could the "old notion" have gotten it dead wrong? I am comfortable sending my woman out with more tread up front. It's a big BS story tire mfg uses to sell more tires. Tire Shops are notoriously bad advisors.
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Default I have to wonder who pushes a car so hard in rain that it spins like that

it's still interesting to see. So you think Michelin's motivation for this recommendation is to sell more tires?
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Default Yeah. I'd like to see actual lap/slalom times. Fronts wear faster....because they work harder. So...

put your worse tires up front, where they can work harder. No thanks. How about the fact more tread protects from blowouts. Where would you rather have a blowout, front or rear? It just like some PC soccer-mom lowest-common-denominator bull**** that I think will blow over.
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that's what I don't get. The front tires wear quicker... so why not put better tires there?
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