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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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Default Need advice on rust problem

In 1998, after replacing three crappy Delta radios, my dealer proposed putting in a power antennae as a solution to poor reception. They called in a sub-contractor and installed one on the rear quarter panel. It helped, but no a lot.

The antennae stopped going up and down recently, so I bought a new one online and removed the old one. To my horror when I took if off, I saw the paint around the hole they drilled bubbling with rust. I is almost to the diameter of the antennae piece that rests on the quarter panel. Should I:

a) Let the dealer repair it my hand, with some sandpaper and touchup paint

b) Pay $150 to have the body shop they use sand blast the area and repaint a larger area blending into the existing paint. They also said they would put some undercoating on the inside.

I don't know which is worse, the potential that the first way won't really fix the problem or the potential that the second way will never look right.

What would you do and why?

Steve-O (98 A4 QMS)
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Default I would contact the dealer that did this. Get your receipts

as proof they did it.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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Default There is another option. Buy rust inhibitor at your local body shop supply store. It looks like

Elmer's glue. No need to sand the affected area, - just scrape it gently with a blade to remove flakes. Then cover the rust with the inhibitor and wait 24 hours or so. The rust will:
1. Be converted to a black finish
2. Be sealed off not to spread further

After that, just use some touch up paint to cover the black finish of inhibited rust.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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I did with reciepts, they remember doing it, they propose doing a) for free
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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i would do a then
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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Default I have tried similar before, not worked well for me

I even asked the body shop about doing this. They said it does not work, will only convert the top surface of the rust. If there is any unconverted rust below, it will come back. That is what happened to the repair job I did on my van recently.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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Default if the antenna didnt help, get a new fender....

and go back to the way it was. once somthing starts to rust its extremely hard to make it stop. A4s are galvinized, if you sand it to the metal to get the rust, youll remove galvinized coating, and itll be even more prone to rust. find a good fender at a junk yard, i got one for 170$ and its perfect, except its silver :-( damn fairly rare cactus green!
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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Default I thought most of the poor receptions issues were with the antenna amp at the back of the car.

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Antenna amplifier, removing and installing (sedan)

Removing

- Remove D-pillar trim Repair Manual, Body Interior, Repair Group 70 .
- Disconnect antenna wire and disconnect all harness connectors.
- Remove hex screws and remove antenna amplifier.

Installing

- Install in reverse order of removal.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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He's got a hole in a quarter panel, not a fender :-)
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Default I've used this method on multiple vehicles in my family. On some, the treated area was left

unpainted (after being sealed). Rust has never resurfaced.

The problem with sanding and re-painting method is that you usually need to sand a larger area than the one affected by rust. Because sanding destroys galvanized coating, you end up with a larger area that's prone to rusting than before.

I feel strongly that if you use a quality rust inhibitor and do the work right (remove flakes, dirt and wax/oil) rust will not come back.

But hey, I respect your opinion. Just do what you think is right for your situation.
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