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Old Mar 1, 2013 | 04:17 PM
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Tonight I was driving behind a guy in a 2008 A4 who had his rear fog lights on. He had his fronts on, too, even though it was a clear night.

Now, I sometimes put my front fogs on so I can more easily spot the many potholes that are popping up here, the rears are really annoying for the person behind you.

Btw, when did Audi start using dual rear fog lights in the U.S.? My '02 Audi only had one ... on the passenger's side.
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Old Mar 1, 2013 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by A4Driver
Btw, when did Audi start using dual rear fog lights in the U.S.? My '02 Audi only had one ... on the passenger's side.
That's weird, I'm pretty sure my B5 only had one on the driver's side.
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Old Mar 1, 2013 | 06:49 PM
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UN Regulation 48 allows one or two rear fog lamps.

More answers to rear fog questions:

REAR FOG LAMP (Regulation No. 38)
6.11.1. Presence
Devices of F or F1 or F2 categories: Mandatory.
6.11.2. Number
One or two.
6.11.3. Arrangement
No special requirement.
6.11.4. Position
6.11.4.1. In width: if there is only one rear fog-lamp, it shall be on the opposite side of the
median longitudinal plane of the vehicle to the direction of traffic prescribed in
the country of registration, the centre of reference may also be situated on the
median longitudinal plane of the vehicle.
6.11.4.2. In height: not less than 250 mm nor more than 1,000 mm above the ground. For
category N3G (off-road) vehicles, the maximum height may be increased to
1,200 mm.
6.11.4.3. In length: at the rear of the vehicle.
6.11.5. Geometric visibility
Defined by angles α and ß as specified in paragraph 2.13.:
α = 5° upwards and 5° downwards;
ß = 25° to right and to left.
6.11.6. Orientation
Rearwards.
E/ECE/324
E/ECE/TRANS/505 } Rev.1/Add.47/Rev.6
Regulation No. 48
page 61
6.11.7. Electrical connections
These shall be such that:
6.11.7.1. The rear fog-lamp(s) cannot be switched on unless the main beams, dipped beams
or front fog-lamps are lit;
6.11.7.2. The rear fog-lamp(s) can be switched off independently of any other lamp;
6.11.7.3. Either of the following applies:
6.11.7.3.1. The rear fog lamp(s) may continue to operate until the position lamps are
switched off, and the rear fog lamp(s) shall then remain off until deliberately
switched on again;
6.11.7.3.2. A warning, at least audible, additional to the mandatory tell-tale
(paragraph 6.11.8.) shall be given if the ignition is switched off or the ignition key
is withdrawn and the driver's door is opened, whether the lamps in
(paragraph 6.11.7.1.) are on or off, whilst the rear fog lamp switch is in the "on"
position.
6.11.7.4. Except as provided in paragraphs 6.11.7.1., 6.11.7.3. and 6.11.7.5., the operation
of the rear fog lamp(s) shall not be affected by switching on or off any other
lamps.
6.11.7.5. The rear fog lamp(s) of a drawing motor vehicle may be automatically switched
off while a trailer is connected and the rear fog lamp(s) of the trailer is (are)
activated.
6.11.8. Tell-tale
Circuit-closed tell-tale mandatory. An independent non-flashing warning light.
6.11.9. Other requirements
In all cases, the distance between the rear fog-lamp and each stop-lamp shall be
greater than 100 mm.

Aren't you happy the United Nations is making laws concerning the fog lights on your car?
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Old Mar 1, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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Just the other night I got behind a B8 that had their rear fog lights on...
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Old Mar 2, 2013 | 05:21 AM
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I told my kid to turn them on when someone is following to close. It works as they back off.
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Old Mar 2, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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I turn on my rear fog lights if someone is following too close. Because it looks like I'm braking.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 10:45 AM
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Dumbasses using their rear fog lights when not needed is probably one of the reasons many manufacturers, including BMW, do not offer rear fog lights in the US. Similar to not knowing how to move to the right except when passing, US drivers for the most part are clueless. Every time I go to Europe I come home realizing just how idiotic most US drivers are when behind the wheel.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rmorin1249
Dumbasses using their rear fog lights when not needed is probably one of the reasons many manufacturers, including BMW, do not offer rear fog lights in the US. Similar to not knowing how to move to the right except when passing, US drivers for the most part are clueless. Every time I go to Europe I come home realizing just how idiotic most US drivers are when behind the wheel.
I wish you'd stay in Europe.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rmorin1249
Dumbasses using their rear fog lights when not needed is probably one of the reasons many manufacturers, including BMW, do not offer rear fog lights in the US. Similar to not knowing how to move to the right except when passing, US drivers for the most part are clueless. Every time I go to Europe I come home realizing just how idiotic most US drivers are when behind the wheel.
Come to MA if you want to see some really idiotic drivers - we have an inordinate share.

On our interstates, lots of folks follow these rules:

Left lane - slow travel lane
Center lane - fast lane
Right lane - passing lane
Shoulder - suicide lane

Also, Colonel, you might want to consider changing your sig to show your Audi vs your BMW on the Audi Forums. It might mitigate stupid comments regarding your place of residence. Then again, maybe not.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 09:12 AM
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snagitseven,

Boston area is the only place I've seen people driving on the shoulders during rush hour. It was crazy. Definitely a higher % of drivers there cut you off, drive aggressive, etc.

As far as the Europe comparison. The US has what.. 250 million drivers, used to drive in mostly open/wider spaces. Are there even 250 million drivers licenses issued in Europe? Those are people traditionally used to drive in giant clusters of crap. Very different driving situations and skill sets.
But by all means, go ahead and slander every driver in the US.
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