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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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i just want to say it has been good reading this thread, very informative of how some dealerships work. and as QUA77RO pointed out about rooms being bugged, i have heard about this. i recommend for buyers to read an article called "Confessions of a Car Salesman" (google it). great article about a guy going "undercover" as a car salesman. i read it a few months ago, but i will read again before i am ready to buy.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by I'ma Lazzzzer
i just want to say it has been good reading this thread, very informative of how some dealerships work. and as QUA77RO pointed out about rooms being bugged, i have heard about this. i recommend for buyers to read an article called "Confessions of a Car Salesman" (google it). great article about a guy going "undercover" as a car salesman. i read it a few months ago, but i will read again before i am ready to buy.
I was under the impression that Audi car dealerships operate abort these standard. And so far, put of the two dealerships which I highly recommend and have been recommended. It's true. I never experienced what you're mentioning. Everything was straightforward and reasonable.

On the other hand, I also never tell them or any other sales what I'm thinking, what I want(unless it may misdirect to my advantage) or made any commitments. Negotiation is a skill. Simple principles, but complicated.

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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Cecil
There are more M-badged BMW's driving at speed around Los Angeles alone than were ever built by the factory. Now that's real enthusiasm for German cars.
Heck I've even seen hondas and nissans in L.A that were apparently modified by the M-Werks division according to the badges... is that enthusiasm for German cars or a sort of hybrid Axis enthusiasm? I never could figure that out.

BTW Brian, I love your sig quotation.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan1524
I was under the impression that Audi car dealerships operate abort these standard. And so far, put? of the two dealerships which I highly recommend and have been recommended. It's true. I never experienced what you're mentioning. Everything was straightforward and reasonable.

On the other hand, I also never tell them or any other sales what I'm thinking, what I want(unless it may misdirect to my advantage) or made any commitments. Negotiation is a skill. Simple principles, but complicated.Nicely put!
I think most "sales sides" of dealerships, Audi or otherwise, try to "abort" any standards that might be considered straight forward and honorable. It's a business like any other and they need to make money. You try to negotiate and keep them from getting any more than you have to part with and still get what you want.

I like to compare the actual act of negotiation to "Go" or chess if you prefer. It takes minutes to learn and a lifetime to master...and there is ALWAYS someone better than you at it waiting to engage you in the game.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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I found the car! Actually my Mom did. Thanks Ma! It's ironic how the car was found. I was working with dealer A. Dealer B, who was also close by, but didn't have the car when I inquired. Dealer C, which is where the car ended up, did a swap with dealer B and just got the car this week. So dealer B had the car, but couldn't say they had it because it was already part of a swap. Get it? According to dealer C, dealer A & B don't play nice together, so I wonder if A ever looked for it at B when doing the search.

Anyway, I am picking it up on Saturday. The sales person was real nice and patient and met the numbers I wanted.

Thank you all so much for the input, advice and information.

Soon to be delivered: 2011 A4, Quattro, Premium Plus, Quartz Gray/Black, Nav, Exhaust tips.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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Nice!
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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Congratulations!
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Thanks! I am so mentally worn out. I appreciate all your advice. Drinks for me tonight
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Congratulations. I hope everything works out well for you. Post some pictures of it when you get time.

Personally, I've lost any traces of "free time" since I finished the deal on my own new A4 a week ago today (2.0 quatro, Pearl Blue, 18" Sport, P+ plus Nav). I've got photos of the car, still in the camera, ready to download to the computer and post. But no time to do it in. Maybe Sunday, 'cause tomorrow, I'm off to a big Rickenbacker guitar fest. I may not have time, but I do have plenty of gusto.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by QUA77R0
Heck I've even seen hondas and nissans in L.A that were apparently modified by the M-Werks division according to the badges... is that enthusiasm for German cars or a sort of hybrid Axis enthusiasm? I never could figure that out.

BTW Brian, I love your sig quotation.
I've always figured those cars that look like Hondas and Nissans are really super-slick and highly confidential BMW development mules being real-world tested using Japanese car bodies to hide their true identities. There's a whole lot of those BMW development mules here in Los Angeles. Probably more than in Germany.

About the quote, Holger Merten was an extremely cool fellow who used to work for the Audi Tradition group, which is the historical branch of the company that maintains and shows their vintage race cars at races and historic car meets. He and I exchanged correspondance about some of the things he'd written in various threads at AtlasF1's Nostalgia Forum, which I thought had a beautiful flow to them. I asked his permission, and received it, to use this quote on this forum as my signature piece. He was glad it would be presented on a forum devoted to Audi. He was a genuine nice guy, and a true Auto Union/Audi enthusiast.

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