The CVT Thread
The price point that Audi chose in the low $40ks is amazing for a large German luxury sedan. $2,200 cheaper than the 2.0T quattro with 8-speed, and a whopping $8,200 cheaper than the 3.0T.
It gets great mileage, especially in city driving:
2.0T CVT: 25/33
2.0T quattro: 20/30
3.0T: 18/27
S6: 17/27
I will update my personal mileage after I've driven some more. City is in the mid-20s but highway I can only get about 30. It seems my A/C is sucking down 1/8 gal/h here in Florida.
The multi-plate clutch does take some getting used to. I found that if you treat it like a manual clutch it works well. That is, don't mess around while the clutch is engaging. Definitely don't lift off the gas abruptly while it is engaging. If it were a manual, you would probably stall. In the CVT it's a recipe for jerkiness. Make a smooth but light push on the gas pedal at first until it engages so you don't burn it out, and then once underway you can add more power. But then there's the turbo boost you need to watch out for lol! Also like a manual, think ahead and don't try to creep forward bit by bit such as in traffic. Each start probably wears out the clutch a tiny bit.
With this technique, I found the CVT to be great for cruising and relaxed driving. Smoothly onto the gas to start and just keep the pressure steady until you're up to speed, which seems to happen before you know it because there's no drama or gear changes. Just smooth, effortless acceleration. Smooth during braking too, because I found that most modern automatics now have engine braking while in Drive and more torque-converter lock up for better fuel economy, but it's now harder to be smooth with the downshifts.
So anyone is welcome to discuss anything and everything, good or bad, about the CVT in this thread!
I believe my mind takes audible cues from the tranny that just would not be there on a CVT (I kind of intuitively know how fast I'm going for example).
I would have thought your mileage would have been better... on a recent long drive, I was getting 29mpg as calculated by the DIS, and about 28 by my calculations (Miles/Gals). Most of that drive was between 75/80 mph. 33 is not as dramatic of a difference as I would have expected, but I'm sure conditions are a significant variable (speed, altitude, wind, etc).
I think it would be interesting to see a comparison of mileage for the 2.0 CVT, 2.0 8 speed, and the 3.0 8 speed). at various average speeds. Perhaps not the purpose of your thread, but I do think it would be educational - might show which drivetrain is best fit for various types of general driving conditions - for example back in 2009 (when I first looked at a hybrid) I did not understand that hybrids are actually BEST fit with a high percentage of in-town driving - the mileage differential compresses at highway speeds, and in some cars even crosses (traditional car will get better mileage at speed).
I think it would be interesting to see a comparison of mileage for the 2.0 CVT, 2.0 8 speed, and the 3.0 8 speed). at various average speeds. Perhaps not the purpose of your thread, but I do think it would be educational - might show which drivetrain is best fit for various types of general driving conditions - for example back in 2009 (when I first looked at a hybrid) I did not understand that hybrids are actually BEST fit with a high percentage of in-town driving - the mileage differential compresses at highway speeds, and in some cars even crosses (traditional car will get better mileage at speed).
The CVT did do very well in city driving however. I haven't done more controlled tests yet, but trying to account for all factors, I'd say mid-20s is still about right. I can even get it to about 32 mpg with some hypermiling techniques like coasting up to and timing traffic lights.
I've pretty much gotten the start off technique down smooth, so now it's just a very dull roar at the start, then quiet with the engine at 1600 rpm for a few seconds while I get up to speed (45 mph), with no gear changes to be felt. I feel like my car is perfect for limo duty. So smooth and it's black as well!
My 12 model does seem to pick up MUCH better than the previous model from standing start though and this model doesn't tend to creep the same. I'd just assumed that's what 7 extra PS' got me!
My 12 model does seem to pick up MUCH better than the previous model from standing start though and this model doesn't tend to creep the same. I'd just assumed that's what 7 extra PS' got me!
I'm going to be gentle on my CVT, especially from a standing start, just like I would for a manual transmission and clutch. Most of the problems with the CVT seem to be from clutch failure or contamination of the transmission fluid (probably from being too hard on the clutch).
For the 2.0 L 4 cyl turbo engine that is ubiquitous in many Audi and VW cars, Audi versions starting in 2009 added variable valve lift, which gave a big bump in torque from 207 to 258 lb-ft and a small bump in power from 200 to 211 hp.
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I traded in my 2001 A4 2.8 quattro for the new A6 so I'll share my observations after I finally get to drive the thing for a while. Unfortunately work is getting in the way of my play time this week.
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Basically if I held the steering wheel off center (left or right) and drove slowly off of a complete stop, I heard a noise coming from the drivetrain, almost like a whine or a grinding sound..
Dealer thought the following to be the culprits and remedied in the following order:
- Tires - Rotated - No effect
- Brakes - Replaced Rotors and pads - No effect
- Axles - Replaced axles - No effect
- Suspension - Lubricated where possible - No effect
- CVT - Replaced - Noise gone
So test your cars as well and if need be, take them in!







