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Old Feb 19, 2020 | 10:54 PM
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Default Software upgrade to allow automatic parking?

There have been several (European) videos that show use of the phone app to park the car, while the driver is outside the car.
My dealer (Biener Audi) previously advised that this function was not approved for use in the U. S. However, recent TV ads show
a similar feature, using the key fob, to move a Hyundai into and out of a parking lot space. Is anyone aware of a software upgrade that would
allow an Audi to be parked, while the driver is outside the car?
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Old Feb 20, 2020 | 08:42 AM
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When I bought my A7 last May, the dealer's tech guy told me that an update with the self-parking feature should be released for the US by Y/E. I guess not!

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Old May 12, 2020 | 12:22 PM
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So I am not the only one that heard it was to come to the 2019 A7.

BTW: WRT the deal stating ‘regulatory’ etc, Just sales talk. When I bought my 2018 A4 (in 2017) my sales guy stated German Manufactures do not like smudges on the screen that is why there is no touch screen, and Remote start is illegal in Germany that is why there is no remote start for a connected car.... Smile, nod, and move on.

Not the autopark is all over the web in 2018 as a future feature, but I assume there would be a charge for it.

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Old May 12, 2020 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Kcossabo
So I am not the only one that heard it was to come to the 2019 A7.

BTW: WRT the deal stating ‘regulatory’ etc, Just sales talk. When I bought my 2018 A4 (in 2017) my sales guy stated German Manufactures do not like smudges on the screen that is why there is no touch screen, and Remote start is illegal in Germany that is why there is no remote start for a connected car.... Smile, nod, and move on.

Not the autopark is all over the web in 2018 as a future feature, but I assume there would be a charge for it.
You're confusing oversees marketing materials with what is found in brochures or the dealer sheets. L3 autonomous driving, just like the auto park function, was never actually on the table for the A7/8. When you buy a car, you're entering into a contractual agreement. Audi has not broken the agreement because if they did, you could sue them for breach of contract. Please do, tell us, where you find these features in black and white in the NA marketing materials printed/made by Audi. You cannot because they didn't exist. We hoped for them as customers but we were never promised them.

That's the difference.
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Old May 12, 2020 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by angrypengu
You're confusing oversees marketing materials with what is found in brochures or the dealer sheets. L3 autonomous driving, just like the auto park function, was never actually on the table for the A7/8. When you buy a car, you're entering into a contractual agreement. Audi has not broken the agreement because if they did, you could sue them for breach of contract. Please do, tell us, where you find these features in black and white in the NA marketing materials printed/made by Audi. You cannot because they didn't exist. We hoped for them as customers but we were never promised them.

That's the difference.
So you bring great point. Not sure where you would find a brochure. There was a world wide launch on the WEB, where, IMHO, there was a lack of ‘only available in some markets’

Agree on all your points, this lack of knowledge is my issue not Audi, It is Audi’s issue that they do not provide the knowledge, not the features.

Your challenge for me to produce proof of statements, I respond, I have none. If you could share the limitations to the A7 platform for the USA market, I would love to read it, I did not seek it, and do not have it, but would like to know, now that I own one, what is NOT included.

My goal is simple, WHAT is a MHEV (in North America) ?
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Old May 12, 2020 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kcossabo
So you bring great point. Not sure where you would find a brochure. There was a world wide launch on the WEB, where, IMHO, there was a lack of ‘only available in some markets’

Agree on all your points, this lack of knowledge is my issue not Audi, It is Audi’s issue that they do not provide the knowledge, not the features.

Your challenge for me to produce proof of statements, I respond, I have none. If you could share the limitations to the A7 platform for the USA market, I would love to read it, I did not seek it, and do not have it, but would like to know, now that I own one, what is NOT included.

My goal is simple, WHAT is a MHEV (in North America) ?
I've already posted the MHEV in another thread in passing. A mild hybrid electric vehicle is, in short, a vehicle where an electrical subsystem utilizing a motor either integrated directly or indirectly supplements power produced by an internal combustion engine. There are 5 levels, P0, 1, 2, 3, 4.

I would ask that you refer to the official dealer guide in your market. Every country has one. Here's an example: https://www.audiworld.com/forums/a8-...anada-2955556/

As you can see, no reference to L3 autonomous driving. No reference to whatever 'park pilot''s official name is. In Europe, you'll see something different.

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As has recently been reported in the automotive press, Audi for now has given up on the whole AI stuff that they announced with fanfare when the A8 came out. It apparently has proven too difficult to get proper legislation in place. Traffic Jam Pilot, the first production L3 autonomous driving and primary feature of the AI system would have put Audi at risk of lawsuits as they would have been responsible if a crash occurred while the car was not under the driver's control. The whole AI system never got activated in any market not even Europe, and never will for now, so the Park Pilot and all the other features that depend on the AI system will not become available. I just checked the German Configurator for the A8, and Park Pilot is not an option. You can get the less advanced parking assistant, though, which can self-park the car while you are sitting in it. It will control the steering and calculate the perfect way in and out of a parking spot as well as using the parking sensors to find an available spot long enough for the car. Audi never offered this in the USA for whatever reason. I have the latest Mercedes equivalent system in my 2019 AMG and while it's cool, I haven't used it in a long time. It was kinda interesting to play with at the beginning and especially while I was still getting used to the car's dimensions and the 360 camera, but I now pretty much park always by myself. I do use it occasionally when it's dark outside and I have difficulty seeing the curb in a poorly lit area when parallel parking, but otherwise it's mostly a gimmick.

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Old May 13, 2020 | 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
As has recently been reported in the automotive press, Audi for now has given up on the whole AI stuff that they announced with fanfare when the A8 came out. It apparently has proven too difficult to get proper legislation in place. Traffic Jam Pilot, the first production L3 autonomous driving and primary feature of the AI system would have put Audi at risk of lawsuits as they would have been responsible if a crash occurred while the car was not under the driver's control. The whole AI system never got activated in any market not even Europe, and never will for now, so the Park Pilot and all the other features that depend on the AI system will not become available. I just checked the German Configurator for the A8, and Park Pilot is not an option. You can get the less advanced parking assistant, though, which can self-park the car while you are sitting in it. It will control the steering and calculate the perfect way in and out of a parking spot as well as using the parking sensors to find an available spot long enough for the car. Audi never offered this in the USA for whatever reason. I have the latest Mercedes equivalent system in my 2019 AMG and while it's cool, I haven't used it in a long time. It was kinda interesting to play with at the beginning and especially while I was still getting used to the car's dimensions and the 360 camera, but I now pretty much park always by myself. I do use it occasionally when it's dark outside and I have difficulty seeing the curb in a poorly lit area when parallel parking, but otherwise it's mostly a gimmick.
The AI driving is going to be a legislative nightmare, and one reason I am not a Tesla Owner (Quality the other).

Do you have any links to the Audi statements?
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Originally Posted by angrypengu
I've already posted the MHEV in another thread in passing. A mild hybrid electric vehicle is, in short, a vehicle where an electrical subsystem utilizing a motor either integrated directly or indirectly supplements power produced by an internal combustion engine. There are 5 levels, P0, 1, 2, 3, 4.

I would ask that you refer to the official dealer guide in your market. Every country has one. Here's an example: https://www.audiworld.com/forums/a8-...anada-2955556/

As you can see, no reference to L3 autonomous driving. No reference to whatever 'park pilot''s official name is. In Europe, you'll see something different.
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Originally Posted by angrypengu
I've already posted the MHEV in another thread in passing. A mild hybrid electric vehicle is, in short, a vehicle where an electrical subsystem utilizing a motor either integrated directly or indirectly supplements power produced by an internal combustion engine. There are 5 levels, P0, 1, 2, 3, 4.

I would ask that you refer to the official dealer guide in your market. Every country has one. Here's an example: https://www.audiworld.com/forums/a8-...anada-2955556/

As you can see, no reference to L3 autonomous driving. No reference to whatever 'park pilot''s official name is. In Europe, you'll see something different.
My apologizes I posted on wrong thread.
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