HHO conversion?
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HHO conversion?
Hello All,
I have been reading up on HHO conversions for all cars and I'm going to try it on my old Lexus SUV. So I bought a started kit for $80 on ebay and hopefully will have it installed in a few days. Anyone have experience with hydrogen conversions? They say it will give me about a 30-50% increase in miles per gallon.
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SawyerA8
I have been reading up on HHO conversions for all cars and I'm going to try it on my old Lexus SUV. So I bought a started kit for $80 on ebay and hopefully will have it installed in a few days. Anyone have experience with hydrogen conversions? They say it will give me about a 30-50% increase in miles per gallon.
Thanks,
SawyerA8
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Scam
Water is burned hydrogen. It takes more energy to separate water back to hydrogen and oxygen than you get from burning the hydrogen (again), not even considering the fact that an IC engine only recovers ~30% of the energy from the combustion process.
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Re: Scam
They also have shills working some of the automotive Forums.<ul><li><a href="http://forums.motortrend.com/70/6805553/the-general-forum/has-any-one-tried-water4gas/index.html">http://forums.motortrend.com/70/6805553/the-general-forum/has-any-one-tried-water4gas/index.html</a</li></ul>
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I hope you kept the receipt!
Big scam. Lots of scammers are trying to profit from the high fuel prices with gadgets and additives.
They use water to put out fires. In order to burn it, you have to un-burn it first, and that takes a lot of energy. A lot more than you get back, even if there was some effect of burning the gasoline more efficiently when hydrogen was added.
Look into how much hydrogen you can produce with this silly little thing and how many liters of air goes into your motor when you are just driving along. A few tiny bubbles of gas per second compared to two liters of air per revolution of the engine, which is happening 25-75 times per second in normal driving.
When these gadgets 'work' is when the driver installs it and drives like a gramma for a tank or two to see how much money he can save. You'd get the same results without the dumb gadget.
-Joel.
They use water to put out fires. In order to burn it, you have to un-burn it first, and that takes a lot of energy. A lot more than you get back, even if there was some effect of burning the gasoline more efficiently when hydrogen was added.
Look into how much hydrogen you can produce with this silly little thing and how many liters of air goes into your motor when you are just driving along. A few tiny bubbles of gas per second compared to two liters of air per revolution of the engine, which is happening 25-75 times per second in normal driving.
When these gadgets 'work' is when the driver installs it and drives like a gramma for a tank or two to see how much money he can save. You'd get the same results without the dumb gadget.
-Joel.
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Oh my. I'm in the wrong business: Step right up folks and buy your $489.99
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One saving grace
One saving grace:
If you can't get a refund. Keep the container and intake fittings if they are good quality. There is some work on "pills" that when mixed with water produce hydrogen (maybe HHO). I don't know about the pressure requirements of the container though in this case. Or cost.
Just another avenue you can consider.
If you can't get a refund. Keep the container and intake fittings if they are good quality. There is some work on "pills" that when mixed with water produce hydrogen (maybe HHO). I don't know about the pressure requirements of the container though in this case. Or cost.
Just another avenue you can consider.
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