Radiator fans wont come on
This is what I see:
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Am I looking at the wrong panel? Is there another one?
Last edited by audiqv8; Apr 19, 2012 at 05:05 PM.
I'm pretty sure the radiator isn't flowing 100%. It is a 1997 car with the original radiator. If the fans would just turn on when the car gets hot then I wouldn't be over heating. This leads me to think that the radiator isn't clogged to the point that it's not functioning...yet. I don't own an infrared thermometer but will try to borrow one and check the hose temps and report back.
I also called the dealer for the high and low speed fan relays and I was told that there is only one relay in location #3 in the fuse box under the hood. It's close to $60 so I bought an aftermarket one for $20. The new relay doesn't turn the fans on when the car is too hot. So the original relay wasn't bad at all. This relay is 70amps! WOW!
I should've picked up a new fan switch at the same time. I really though the new relay was going to fix my problem...back to the drawing board. lol
Last edited by sugaryling; Apr 19, 2012 at 06:59 PM.
The coolant fan control thermal switch is located in the lower left part of the radiator.
Terminal assignment 3-pin connector
Pin 1 = 1st stage
Pin 2 = 2nd stage
Pin 3 = Battery ground (B-)
Switching temperature:
Pin 1:
On: 92-97°C (198-207°F)
Off: Approx. 84°C (183°F)
Pin 2:
On: 99-105°C (210-221°F)
Off: Approx. 91°C (196°F)
Testing Procedure
1.Place sensor in a suitable container of liquid that contains a thermometer an may be heated and cooled.
2.Connect a suitable ohmmeter or continuity tester to terminals one and three of the sensor to test the 1st stage circuit.
3.Heat liquid while observing thermometer and continuity tester, circuit should close between 92-97°C (198-207°F) .
4.Cool liquid while observing thermometer and continuity tester, circuit should open below Approx. 84°C (183°F) .
5.Connect continuity tester to terminals two and three, then repeat above procedures to test 2nd stage circuit, noting the following:
6.Second stage circuit should close between 99-105°C (210-221°F) .
7.Circuit should open below Approx. 91°C (196°F)
Or you can remove the wire to the sensor and short out pins 1 and 3 to get the fan to come on. This will cause the fan to run at (low) stage 1. If the fan comes on then you either have a bad radiator temperature sensor or a clogged radiator.
So, the problem was either a bad fan thermo switch sensor or there was way too much sediments sitting in the lower section of the radiator (which there was) that the sensor couldn't read the coolant temp. Or both! I replaced the sensor with a new one. $8 fixed the problem...unfortunately I had to spend over $500 to find that out.
Thanks for all the help!
Most of the sediments must've come from the heater core. I had no heat and when I ran a hose through the heater core a lot of sediments came out too.
Once again, big thanks to the forum for all the input! Especially "audiqv8."
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I found the other day that my coolant expansion tank is cracked and leaking so it must be replaced but could lack of pressure cause the thermostat to remain closed? The lower hose remains cool to the touch while the upper is hot so I am thinking I may have a bad thermostat, a bad water pump or a bad sensor. How do I verify which is the actual culprit? When AC is on the fans turn properly but will not turn on otherwise.
If your expansion tank is cracked and leaking, replace it.
If your fans don't turn on, I would suggest you replace your fan thermo switch like me. It's cheap and if that doesn't fix the problem...you only waste $8.


