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Old Oct 13, 2002 | 05:45 PM
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Default Having problems with my new Eclipse CD3422...

I'm installing the new HU in my Jetta, and I'm not getting the deck to power up. I checked ground and power with a tester, and there's definitely power going to the deck at both, where it connects to the car and the inline 10A fuse.

In fact, when I plug the deck's harness in, there's a brief mechanical sound of the CD transport resetting/going through its check, but there are no lights on the deck or anything to indicate power.

Any ideas? I just want to make sure that I've checked everything before taking the deck into the audio dealer.

Thanks. (BTW, the car is on to supply power)
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Old Oct 13, 2002 | 11:39 PM
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Default So does it stay on after the sound or does it lose power.

Try sticking a CD in to see if it'll take it in. If it does, then the display is just whacked. Gotta go back to the dealer. Another thing you could do is try powering it off another car or power supply. It could be just low voltage. If it's less than 10V, decks do some strange things. Easiest way to hook it up in another car is to use a cigarette lighter adapter. Make sure it can handle more than 5 amps. Cut and strip the wire on the output side of the adapter and then connect it to the appropriate wires on the Eclipse harness. Just make sure you test the adapter to see which wire is power and which one is ground because reversing them would be very bad.
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 08:00 AM
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Default well, I figured it out this morning..

It seems that the acc power lead wasn't supplying enough voltage, as you indicated. So, I just wired it inline to the real power, so the stereo is on until you manually shut it off. Works fine. That's how my Alpine was wired.

Now the wierd thing is that it has the security CD function, where you insert any audio CD and have it be your anti-theft code. Seems the unit doesn't want to go into the mode where you insert the disc and have it read by the HU.

But at least I have tunes in the car now. Thanks.
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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Default Well, its hard to say why you're getting a low voltage condition

at the ACC but at least you've pinpointed the problem. You might want to try tapping the ACC further back like at the steering column to see if you can get the proper voltage. That senario where the deck could possibly be on all the time would bother me.

About the other problem, I'm a little confused. So you're saying that it doesn't go into the mode to let you program a CD as the key or it doesn't recognize a key. I know the deck comes with that feature turned off so you actually have to go and turn it on to make it work. Are you using copied CD's. I tried this when I had an Eclipse and it doesn't work if you programed the key with a original and try to use a copy to unlock it.

Hope that helps.
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 12:05 PM
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Default A problem with your new wiring scheme...

... is that your HU will drain the battery if left on after the car is turned off. I know you don't think you'll make that mistake, but it will happen when you're in a hurry sometime, and you'll be pissed. Obviously, there is something wrong with your wiring that you should work to solve - the OEM accessory (switched power) wire provides plenty of juice for an Eclipse radio.
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 06:40 PM
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Default Actually, I can't even enter the mode to have it "learn" my security CD...

The manual says that I have to hold down key '1' (of the radio memory selector buttons), then the 'Function' key and hold both of them for 2 seconds when the deck is off.

It's supposed to say "SEC" indicating it has entered the security function mode. Well, I never make it to that point in the first place. The deck just lays there doing nothing.

I wonder if the deck needs an indication that the power is off which is related to my post above, in order to think that it has no power.

You think that could be it? That is the only thing that is different. The ACC power that is supposed to be indicating off doesn't as it is constantly receiving power.

hmmm. BTW, TIA!
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 07:59 PM
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Default This is still happening while you're getting proper voltage to ACC

I'd say take it bakc and have the shop test it on their display board or off a power supply to see if it works. That's the only sure wya you can eliminate the deck from the equation.
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 10:22 PM
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Default My ACC power line is currently my constant power supply line...

I was not getting any power through the ACC wire, even though the key was in and engine running. So, I just wired it so that the HU can be on without any key, which isn't a problem for me as my Alpine was like that (which was stolen).

I'm thinking because there is no lack of power telling the HU that there is no power, it's prohibiting the HU to go into the security key code mode.

I'll follow your advice. But I figured I make sure before taking the HU out and lugging it back to the dealer.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 07:47 AM
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Default You can only program the key CD with the switched power on, so your wiring is not the problem

You've wired it so that the switched power is always on, so the deck should execute the procedure. Start by turning off power to the unit via the power button (for the rest of us, we'd have to have the ignition on to send power via the switched lead). Then, do the two-key dance, and it should work just fine.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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Default the acc line needs to see a voltage fluctuation...

ie, it can not be wired into the 12v constant line, if you want the alarm to work properly. you will need to find a switched power line (something connected to the igntion switch) with enough power output to switch the head on. check the acc switch with a multimeter and see what kind of voltage you are getting from it.

another problem i have found with eclipse and the power in these cars in general (vw/ audi) is the dimmer switch on the car makes the dimmer function on the head go crazy, unless it is turned all the way up (bright).
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