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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Default Push starting?

First of all, I can't remember the name given to the process of starting a manual transmissioned car via popping the clutch while the car is in motion.
Anyway. Was backpacking for the last eight days and of course left the car at the trailhead. On return, the battery would not allow the car to start. With a ten mile downhill road from the mountains, I rolled the car down the road and thought I could start the car with the clutch..It wouldn't. I'm assuming it is now normal for a modern car not to start in this manner, but why is that now the norm?
An old, old couple, maybe in their ninties, stopped with jumper cables and got me going. Took him minutes to walk from the drivers door to the trunk where the cables were kept. I offered to pay him for his time but his response was maybe this good deed would get the fish to bite for him..
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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Default If there is no energy in the bat. at all, the alt will not energize to starting producing current.

So, it depends if there is some level of current left in the battery.

It's amazing how much current a modern car uses. One of the reasons manufacturers want to switch to 24 or 48 volt systems.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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Default There was SOME energy left.

While i was attempting to use the pop the clutch method the entire freaking dash was blinking and beeping noises at me. After the jump start, the clock was correct, the radio was ok.
I do have a professionally installed subamp that i have always thought to be somehow drawing amperage when off, but I don't know how to confirm nor deny...
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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Default Hmm.

We have gotten my brother's BMW M3 started by pushing, but it always helps to turn the key to start position as you roll down the hill and turn the starter a little if you can. Why did your battery drain, leave the lights on?
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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Default I'm not lying when I said it was ten miles of downhill.

I tried it all ways..I did not leave the lights on, for some reason, my car drains the battery. It has happened before, when I've gone on a trip and left the car in the garage. But it was with the key in the ignition and I thought maybe the key was drawing power somehow.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Default I've push started my S4 before...

you must have the key in the on position, I used 2nd gear.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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Default I had a beetle back in 1971 that didn't have a reverse gear

I always had to park it so i could drive forward..it also failed not to start by key more than not. I've been push starting cars since then.

The next car after that, by the way, was a 53 Chrysler, push button automatic that I bought for $53 and a bag of pot. It used more oil than gas and I abandoned somewhere in Montana...Where, I can't remember..
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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Default Where were you hiking?

Didn't know you liked to... we should get together sometime (Point Lobos? Sunol?) and hike away.
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Default Drinking my coffee this morning, I'm now thinkin' it was a '57 and not a 53

I do remember large tailfins.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 06:59 AM
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Eastside of the Sierra, trailhead at Pine Creek. Let's go
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