SQ5 winter tires: Blizzak Lm-60 or DM-V1
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From: Calgary, Alberta
Here's what I mean:
"The first 55% of the Blizzak DM-V1 tread depth features the Multicell Z Compound while the remaining 45% features a standard winter tire compound. When the Blizzak DM-V1 is approximately 50 percent worn, a depth indicator molded into the tread design lets the driver know that the remaining tread is reaching the end of its ability to provide beneficial snow traction"
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"Since the current Multicell tread compounds used on Blizzak winter / snow tires are not designed to support H-speed ratings, the Blizzak LM-60 uses a high silica content winter / snow tread compound molded into a directional tread design that features independent tread blocks with 3-D zigzag sipes to disperse water away from the tire's contact patch, further enhancing grip."
Our DM-V1s are on their 3rd winter this year and I expect they will have worn through the "Multicell Z Compound" by next spring (w/roughly 35,000kms on them). At that point, I guess we'll run them in the summer until they are further worn out as it would seem stupid to toss a tire that's only 55% worn.
"The first 55% of the Blizzak DM-V1 tread depth features the Multicell Z Compound while the remaining 45% features a standard winter tire compound. When the Blizzak DM-V1 is approximately 50 percent worn, a depth indicator molded into the tread design lets the driver know that the remaining tread is reaching the end of its ability to provide beneficial snow traction"
vs.
"Since the current Multicell tread compounds used on Blizzak winter / snow tires are not designed to support H-speed ratings, the Blizzak LM-60 uses a high silica content winter / snow tread compound molded into a directional tread design that features independent tread blocks with 3-D zigzag sipes to disperse water away from the tire's contact patch, further enhancing grip."
Our DM-V1s are on their 3rd winter this year and I expect they will have worn through the "Multicell Z Compound" by next spring (w/roughly 35,000kms on them). At that point, I guess we'll run them in the summer until they are further worn out as it would seem stupid to toss a tire that's only 55% worn.
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We have them on 20" Titanium Peelers on our SQ5 and just experienced our first Minnesota snow and ice with them, they are great on snow and ice mix and no louder than the 21" hi performance summers OEM setup.
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I wanted to get Dunlop 3Ds but they were out so I was left with the two Blizzak options, Pirelli Ice and Snow and Pirelli Scorpion Winter. I ruled out the LM-60 due to what appears to be very bad wet traction according to this tire rack test: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=181 I'm in Seattle and naturally this had me very concerned.
The DM-V1 is not meant for performance so I ruled that one out quickly. Then the Pirellis debate came down to the fact that Scorpion Winter is the newer, replacement of sorts to the Ice and Snow. The Ice and Snow have great reviews, but I went with what is newer and also the Scorpion Winter is approved by Porsche for Cayenne, although they are not badged N-spec.
So I'm now running Pirelli Scorpion Winter in 255/50/19 and so far on frozen dry roads they have excellent grip and turn-in response. The ride may have actually stiffened a slight amount compared to my 20" Goodyears but it's hard to tell. I felt the sidewalls prior to install and they were more stiff than I expected so the bump translation may be real. It seems these are made for performance which is what I was looking for.
The DM-V1 is not meant for performance so I ruled that one out quickly. Then the Pirellis debate came down to the fact that Scorpion Winter is the newer, replacement of sorts to the Ice and Snow. The Ice and Snow have great reviews, but I went with what is newer and also the Scorpion Winter is approved by Porsche for Cayenne, although they are not badged N-spec.
So I'm now running Pirelli Scorpion Winter in 255/50/19 and so far on frozen dry roads they have excellent grip and turn-in response. The ride may have actually stiffened a slight amount compared to my 20" Goodyears but it's hard to tell. I felt the sidewalls prior to install and they were more stiff than I expected so the bump translation may be real. It seems these are made for performance which is what I was looking for.
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Jordan, I'm also looking into getting some winter tires for our up and coming Q5, How did the DM-V1's handle the medium to deep snow in Calgary? The tires look like they would be good on the ice, but I wasn't sure if they would be all that good in the deeper snow or the wet slush like we have now on the streets.
Make sure you check out tirerack, even with the high cost of shipping to Calgary, we couldn't find a better price on wheels + tires anywhere locally. Save us ~$1,000.
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From: great lakes, yoo ess of eh
I'm on my 4th season with the DM-V1's in 19" size and I couldn't ask for a better winter tire. The tread is fairly agressive so I too worried about dry road noise. Especially after a few years, most tires get noisier and noisier. Not the DM-V1's. Sure they're a little more road noise than summer tires, but not bad at all and I am HYPER sensitive to noise of any kind. I'm on my second set of DM-V1's on my company pickup truck. A super-frady-cat winter driver drives that truck regularly and he loves the tires.
We had a set of the Pirelli Scorpions on a previous SUV and they wore out surprisingly fast and tires were no better than all-seasons the last 60% of tread depth . Those were very early Scorpions though (~2005) , perhaps they've been improved since then.
I just installed the new Dunlop WinterSport 4D on my RS4 and they're my favorite. I've owned the 2D and two sets of 3D, but these 4Ds are easily the best. What a great tire! Soft ride, didn't turn my car into a mush-mobile, dead quiet, and grip like claws on snow and ice.
We had a set of the Pirelli Scorpions on a previous SUV and they wore out surprisingly fast and tires were no better than all-seasons the last 60% of tread depth . Those were very early Scorpions though (~2005) , perhaps they've been improved since then.
I just installed the new Dunlop WinterSport 4D on my RS4 and they're my favorite. I've owned the 2D and two sets of 3D, but these 4Ds are easily the best. What a great tire! Soft ride, didn't turn my car into a mush-mobile, dead quiet, and grip like claws on snow and ice.
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