Somebody has to foil the Audi love in you guys all seem to have. I've raised real concerns about the car - and others have had similar concerns from a straw poll. If I stir a couple of people like yourself - well hey thats a shame - but good fun to boot.

The car is great in many respects - outside looks, tdi engine and handling - however there are so many shortcuts and badly thought out stuff that shouldnt be there in a premium product. Take a look at the 7 seat capability for a start - I have three kids and even they struggled to get in the back two with comfort - totally useless - a 5 seater with a huge boot. The driving position is compromised by gearbox/footwell. The instrumentation (a6 ripoff) is pretty much useless and not exactly intuitive. The aircon sucks so much that you have to have the extra pack in the back to cool the car. The cruise control is pretty useless also - on a car like this it should intervene to prevent overspeed conditions as standard like other premium offerings. The satnav data is a year out of date already. The colour driver display doesnt give enough information regarding stuff on mmi - telephone and radio/cd info isnt enough. The paddle gearchange is useless due to the high delay on the gearbox. The carpets on these premium cars is cheap and nasty. The boot load area is to high and narrow for a car of this size. The pricing in euro and usa is a traversty indeed. UK market also has not introductory "service" and other gimmicks that USA market get. Overall the experience leaves me cold... I could add further.

This doesnt include all the reports of things breaking on this new car - and serious matters at that. Not to mention the changed spec and missing components that people seem to have had on this forum too. Are you blind to these issues.

If I'm paying top whack price (double usa prices) then I expect gold plated perfect product and service. Not seen that and thats why things would have to improve a lot. Only seen greedy dealers who now have an uphill task after the launch is past.

They failed with Toureg and Cayenne so they reworked it for Audi - will they fail - seems on course to do the same - My proof - an email from Audi USA trying to punt a Q7 3.6 premium for $500 a month - My wife said last night we'd lease two if they had it that cheap in the uk!!!

Now if that lease cost is not out of despiration then what is - wake up and smell the dodo.

 

I am sorry I asked, somebody should have warned me!

 

LOL LOL LOL thanks guys that was a great read. Ya gotta love Peegee

 

Snowy pics? Snowy reports?

 

If only I could say the same for JustforFan and others.

I tell it like it is = just a pity that some of the others in the lovein cant see past end of their rose tinted glasses.

Hopefully in a couple of years when they facelift the q7 - they might get it right. For now I'll leave the dodgy build quality to the lovein to test out.

For now I'm off to get a diesel bmw with 286bhp...

Enjoy life in the slow lane guys.

 

Having had a BMW X5 with wipers that failed in a similar way to that described for the Q7 and having it trucked back to the dealer four times due to discharging battery and inoperative locks, not to mention sundry other problems, I wish you good luck. A friend has recently bought a 535D and it replaced a 530D which he got rid of with just over 100,000 miles in two years due to mounting problems. His previous Audi Allroad diesel had been trouble free over 3.5 years and nearly 200,000 miles.

There is some luck involved whatever you buy. Take my Range Rover for instance. It is about to be replaced by the Q7 but I can honestly say that not a single fault has come up in 30,000 miles and two years. Not one. This despite it sharing many major and minor components with the BMW X5.
It has set a high standard for the Q7 to match. We'll see.

 

I think your mistaken in your major component statement. Yes - Bmw did own Landrover a few years back - however I'd love to know what parts the x5 and LR share now that ford owns LR...

There was a deal for 6 cyl diesel engines for the old td6 disco - however since the new discovery took flight the diesel has been a v6 ford sourced unit..

On the 4 wheel drive system if you look carefully the x drive is more like audi's product than that of LR.

Bmw would always claim to have the best road handling 4*4 and would never chase the LR offroad crowns - for example do you know of any BMW that has a low range gearbox for those tricky inclines.

Overall on the robustness topic - I agree - luck has a bit to do with how your car performs.
However for example windscreen wipers failing has nothing to do with luck and a lot todo with bad design and fitting issues. That to date has never happened on a BMW, Ford or GM sourced car I've had Lets hope they iron out all these little bugs soon...

 

The Range Rover [not the Sport] has never had the V6 and the Mk III has up until now had the BMW engine. They changed from BMW petrol engines to Jaguar about a year ago, but not the diesel until now. The first diesel V8 engines are now coming through and this has just replaced the BMW diesel.

Talking about the BMW engined versions, then the gearboxes are shared and so is the electrical system including most of the computers and a modified version of the software. For instance, the X5 would downshift embarrasingly when driving down a grade on a slightly trailing throttle, the RR does not do that. Much of the switchgear and most of the HVAC is shared. The sump mounted front diff is shared I believe and so is the rear.
The RR is just a slightly beefed up and bigger X5 with changed emphasis and longer travel suspension. Most of the components have BMW stamps. They are disimilar enough for them to look and feel and even drive differently while sharing an amazing number of parts, down to the business radio and computer system that were more or less identical in both mine.
They even shared the same faults when built at the same time. Locks, electrical steeering column adjustment and draining battery problems were common to both. So were tailgate rattles and lower tailgate switch pads. I had these problems on the BMW but by the time my RR was built these had been ironed out on both models.

I hope that any bugs the q7 has have been eliminated at least a fortnight ago, when mine was built ;-)

 

Question, which rims came from your Cayenne? Are they 18" or 19" rims? I'm thinking of doing the same, I have the 18" Cayenne turbo rims, and want to make sure these will work.