Stock dyno numbers?
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Stock dyno numbers?
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I just ran mine bone stock and put down 405.86hp and 455.36tq to the wheels. The guy running the dyno seemed impressed by the stock numbers. What do you think? Are they above average or just about typical?
I just ran mine bone stock and put down 405.86hp and 455.36tq to the wheels. The guy running the dyno seemed impressed by the stock numbers. What do you think? Are they above average or just about typical?
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Let you know in two weeks. Doing mine on the 17th. Sounds good to me, low percentage of loss
through the drivetrain. I would have thought it would be more, but I don't know much about it myself as new to the car.
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Numbers seem high
I am no dyno expert; never had it done. But I follow the numbers & don't recall anything over 400 before at the wheels. The torque number is especially hard to believe, since it's about 35 more than Audi claims. (BTW when you say your numbers are "to the wheels," do you mean "at the wheels"?)
Who did your dyno? It was an AWD set-up, right?
For comparison you might do a search here and also in the community section (forums) at rs6.com
Who did your dyno? It was an AWD set-up, right?
For comparison you might do a search here and also in the community section (forums) at rs6.com
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Yes...at the wheels.
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MAC Autosport ran the AWD dyno. I went with the Rocky Mountain Region fellas so I had at least 10 guys standing right there. I'm wondering if the previous owner had this thing chipped, although I really doubt it. I'll see if I can post up the actual dyno sheet.
Update: Okay this picture isn't the best but you get the idea.
MAC Autosport ran the AWD dyno. I went with the Rocky Mountain Region fellas so I had at least 10 guys standing right there. I'm wondering if the previous owner had this thing chipped, although I really doubt it. I'll see if I can post up the actual dyno sheet.
Update: Okay this picture isn't the best but you get the idea.
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I'm betting it's chipped
How much do you know about the previous owner? I'm guessing it's possible he read you as a customer who was concerned about warranty & therefore didn't mention it was chipped. Maybe he had been trying to sell it for a while as chipped & wasn't having much luck.
You realize that chipping no longer necessarily means there is a physical chip, right? If you look inside the ECM, all might look normal and undisturbed if it was chipped/programmed by port, i.e. from a wire under the dash connected to a downloading computer with the proper cable. Sort of like a blood transfusion, except the blood is programming.
In any case I can't see how you're getting those numbers stock, assuming the dyno worked properly, unless the engine's performance programming was enhanced. Otherwise how could torque rated at 420 from the engine end up as 455 at the wheels? Torque normally diminishes on its way to the wheels, especially with four of them to drive. The higher rating seems to defy the physics of energy transmission.
You realize that chipping no longer necessarily means there is a physical chip, right? If you look inside the ECM, all might look normal and undisturbed if it was chipped/programmed by port, i.e. from a wire under the dash connected to a downloading computer with the proper cable. Sort of like a blood transfusion, except the blood is programming.
In any case I can't see how you're getting those numbers stock, assuming the dyno worked properly, unless the engine's performance programming was enhanced. Otherwise how could torque rated at 420 from the engine end up as 455 at the wheels? Torque normally diminishes on its way to the wheels, especially with four of them to drive. The higher rating seems to defy the physics of energy transmission.
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I understand
You know, I actually wrote "he/she" in reference to your car's seller in my first draft, then edited it down to "he." Funny.
Anyhow, it may seem unlikely that a female owner would mod, but then you have to think about the fact this is, after all, a female who owned an RS6. Assuming she bought it, I doubt she's a typical female ... whatever that is. (If anyone can give me a clue, please do; life will be SO much better!)
Can't help you detect anything, and that can be a delicate subject. It's usually not something you want to ask about at a dealership! But there's a web site directory of VAG-COM owners who lend out or rent their equipment. Maybe they can help. If I find the link I'll post it here later.
Another option: Contact a chip dealer near you -- APR, GIAC, whoever -- and ask what they are capable of detecting.
Anyhow, it may seem unlikely that a female owner would mod, but then you have to think about the fact this is, after all, a female who owned an RS6. Assuming she bought it, I doubt she's a typical female ... whatever that is. (If anyone can give me a clue, please do; life will be SO much better!)
Can't help you detect anything, and that can be a delicate subject. It's usually not something you want to ask about at a dealership! But there's a web site directory of VAG-COM owners who lend out or rent their equipment. Maybe they can help. If I find the link I'll post it here later.
Another option: Contact a chip dealer near you -- APR, GIAC, whoever -- and ask what they are capable of detecting.
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for everyones reference on this, I was there, I'm the guy in the picture with the sunglasses
I'm not convinced about this dyno. It has a hit and miss reputation, and is known for reading high. Their SAE correction is a little dubious. I don't think his RS6 is chipped personally, I just think that their numbers are inflated. My B5 S4, albeit pretty heavily modified/tweaked, put down 302whp/412wtq on this dyno.
Jeff, I have a VAG-COM, I can look over your car whenever you want.
Jeff, I have a VAG-COM, I can look over your car whenever you want.