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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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I was doing some VCDS coding yesterday and I also scanned all the other clusters. The engine cluster showed cylinder misfires in cylinders 1,2,3. Anybody have misfires as well?

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CCBA) Labels: 06E-907-551-CAK.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 551 A HW: 8K0 907 551 A
Component: 3.0T SIMOS84 H06 0002
Revision: ********
Coding: 0104000A180F0128
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS8K0907551A A01003
ROD: EV_ECM30TFS8K0907551A.rod
VCID: 2F66998EC79B

4 Faults Found:
7113 - Cylinder 1: Misfire Detected
P0301 00 [096] - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 8221 km
Date: 2011.01.11
Time: 08:23:22

7117 - Cylinder 3: Misfire Detected
P0303 00 [096] - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 8221 km
Date: 2011.01.11
Time: 08:23:22

7115 - Cylinder 2: Misfire Detected
P0302 00 [096] - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 8221 km
Date: 2011.01.11
Time: 08:23:22

6371 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 00 [096] - Mechanical Failure
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 8221 km
Date: 2011.01.11
Time: 08:23:39

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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I saw this once about 6 months ago I actually got a CEL. I cleared it and it never came back. I suggest you clear your codes and see if they come back.

Friday,06,August,2010,17:42:50:41525
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.0 (x64)

Address 01: Engine Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 8K0 907 551 A HW: 8K0 907 551 A
Component and/or Version: 3.0T SIMOS84 H06 0002
Software Coding: 0104000A180F0128
Work Shop Code: WSC 06325 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS8K0907551A A01003 (AU48)
VCID: 2F6613A9C775
4 Faults Found:

7113 - Cylinder 1: Misfire Detected
P0301 00 [236] - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Mileage: 10944 km
Date: 2010.07.01
Time: 17:07:36

7117 - Cylinder 3: Misfire Detected
P0303 00 [236] - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Mileage: 10944 km
Date: 2010.07.01
Time: 17:07:36

7115 - Cylinder 2: Misfire Detected
P0302 00 [236] - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Mileage: 10944 km
Date: 2010.07.01
Time: 17:07:36

6371 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 00 [096] - Mechanical Failure
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Mileage: 10944 km
Date: 2010.07.01
Time: 17:07:48


Readiness: 0000 0000

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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rktskicar
I saw this once about 6 months ago I actually got a CEL. I cleared it and it never came back. I suggest you clear your codes and see if they come back.
You need to either change the N75 valve, ECT sensor, swap the ICM or change to the 710N's. :P
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tifosi
You need to either change the N75 valve, ECT sensor, swap the ICM or change to the 710N's. :P
lol! or get smaller injectors.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tifosi
You need to either change the N75 valve, ECT sensor, swap the ICM or change to the 710N's. :P
lol...
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Old May 21, 2012 | 03:32 PM
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Reviving this thread as I've seen numerous misfires on my 2010, even after clearing with VAGCOM. I haven't had any CELs, and I don't get the comment about "You need to either change the N75 valve, ECT sensor, swap the ICM or change to the 710N's. :P". I'm having flashbacks to the ignition coil recalls I had on previous VWs, though I didn't have a cable then to check. Are misfires generally normal? Worry only if getting a CEL? Thanks. If it's worth it, here's part of the most recent log:

Sunday,20,May,2012,11:49:42:49903
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.1
Data version: 20111209



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Chassis Type: 8T0
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 46 47 52 53 55 56 5F 62
6C 72

VIN: WAUBGAFL7AAxxxxxx Mileage: 29850km/18547miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CCBA) Labels: 06E-907-551-CAK.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 551 A HW: 8K0 907 551 A
Component: 3.0T SIMOS84 H06 0002
Revision: --------
Coding: 0104000A240F0128
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS8K0907551A A01003
ROD: EV_ECM30TFS8K0907551A.rod
VCID: 2F67089B76066CC

4 Faults Found:
7113 - Cylinder 1
P0301 00 [096] - Misfire Detected
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 29425 km
Date: 2012.05.08
Time: 18:13:06

7117 - Cylinder 3
P0303 00 [096] - Misfire Detected
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 29425 km
Date: 2012.05.08
Time: 18:13:06

7115 - Cylinder 2
P0302 00 [096] - Misfire Detected
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 29425 km
Date: 2012.05.08
Time: 18:13:06

6371 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 00 [096] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 29426 km
Date: 2012.05.08
Time: 18:13:18

Readiness: 0000 0000

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shouldnt you be able to feel misfires? typically as a rough idle or when you go WOT, you will feel it?
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Originally Posted by zulujams
Reviving this thread as I've seen numerous misfires on my 2010, even after clearing with VAGCOM. I haven't had any CELs, and I don't get the comment about "You need to either change the N75 valve, ECT sensor, swap the ICM or change to the 710N's. :P". :
That's just a joke for those who owned a B5 S4.

Just likely bad gas, BTW. not a biggie.
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Originally Posted by ilspazzaneve
That's just a joke for those who owned a B5 S4.

Just likely bad gas, BTW. not a biggie.
Thanks, I use Sunoco 93 mostly based on availablilty in my area. Shell is here but not in great spots for me. Maybe I should go out of my way and try different gas, but if no damage is occurring, maybe it isn't worth it.

As for feeling it, I haven't noticed anything while driving or idling.
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Originally Posted by zulujams
Thanks, I use Sunoco 93 mostly based on availablilty in my area. Shell is here but not in great spots for me. Maybe I should go out of my way and try different gas, but if no damage is occurring, maybe it isn't worth it.

As for feeling it, I haven't noticed anything while driving or idling.
93 is plenty of octane. I use 91 and my S4 is fine. In CA, I think 91 is now the most you can get out of a pump
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