VIM- Video in Motion and Making changes
#1
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VIM- Video in Motion and Making changes
Seems like when you’re talking about MMI or changing settings, a lot changes from year to year or between models. So, a few questions. My car is a 2018 SQ5 Prestige with most options. I’m not a hacking genius, but not technically inept either. Fooling around looking for hidden menus I found one, but it’s all Greek and I don’t know if it’s information or if changes can be made from it. So I backed out before doing any damage.
To my question. I read about a single use dongle that appeared to be a crafty guy’s way to profit by enabling VIM quickly and easily for a price. But that was 2015, not my car and not my MMI. What would be the easiest answer for me, if there is one?
This brings up my next question (excuse me if I get names wrong). I see Carista, OBDeleven, VAG, and other names. It seems some are all inclusive. Others require license, add-ons, or subscriptions to be useful. Assuming I want to disable the prohibition of watching a DVD or video while moving, what’s the most economical solution? What if I want to tweak other things like seatbelt chimes or other things? One thing that bothers me with current cars is having them go into park or not shift if a door is open. I’ve heard if my BMW stalls in the road, in order to push it off the road you have to crawl under the car and disconnect something to be able to push it with a door open. If I want to move my SQ5 a few feet in the driveway, I have to shut the door.
So what are the recommended tools to use without having a PhD or cryptic coding manuals. And what is the cost? Subscription, credits, per use...I guess I should add I use iPhone’s and iPads and don’t have an Android device. I also have a Windows 7 laptop. All have Bluetooth and WiFi.
And if I don’t want to make a major investment in tools I’d only use infrequently, how easy is it to find someone who can make changes (for a price or good nature, bud or beer)? I live in Allentown, PA if anyone lives nearby. How likely are dealer techs willing to make changes? Or would doing so violate safety concerns and put them in jeopardy? I know when I had bodywork done on my 2002 TT I wanted the spoiler removed (it ruined the look of the car which didn’t have it initially. But apparently some bonehead with an early model felt the need to go 140 and the car went airborne), so they were prohibited from removing the spoiler.
i do enjoy doing things myself when possible, and logic is the main requirement. I plan to lower the car, but I haven’t read where it is possible to do with VAG COM for my model year/model, and spending $200 on a set of links might be cheaper and easier than finding a tech who has done it in the area with Audi’s Scan Tool. Opinions?
Thanks for the help,
James
To my question. I read about a single use dongle that appeared to be a crafty guy’s way to profit by enabling VIM quickly and easily for a price. But that was 2015, not my car and not my MMI. What would be the easiest answer for me, if there is one?
This brings up my next question (excuse me if I get names wrong). I see Carista, OBDeleven, VAG, and other names. It seems some are all inclusive. Others require license, add-ons, or subscriptions to be useful. Assuming I want to disable the prohibition of watching a DVD or video while moving, what’s the most economical solution? What if I want to tweak other things like seatbelt chimes or other things? One thing that bothers me with current cars is having them go into park or not shift if a door is open. I’ve heard if my BMW stalls in the road, in order to push it off the road you have to crawl under the car and disconnect something to be able to push it with a door open. If I want to move my SQ5 a few feet in the driveway, I have to shut the door.
So what are the recommended tools to use without having a PhD or cryptic coding manuals. And what is the cost? Subscription, credits, per use...I guess I should add I use iPhone’s and iPads and don’t have an Android device. I also have a Windows 7 laptop. All have Bluetooth and WiFi.
And if I don’t want to make a major investment in tools I’d only use infrequently, how easy is it to find someone who can make changes (for a price or good nature, bud or beer)? I live in Allentown, PA if anyone lives nearby. How likely are dealer techs willing to make changes? Or would doing so violate safety concerns and put them in jeopardy? I know when I had bodywork done on my 2002 TT I wanted the spoiler removed (it ruined the look of the car which didn’t have it initially. But apparently some bonehead with an early model felt the need to go 140 and the car went airborne), so they were prohibited from removing the spoiler.
i do enjoy doing things myself when possible, and logic is the main requirement. I plan to lower the car, but I haven’t read where it is possible to do with VAG COM for my model year/model, and spending $200 on a set of links might be cheaper and easier than finding a tech who has done it in the area with Audi’s Scan Tool. Opinions?
Thanks for the help,
James
#2
AudiWorld Senior Member
VIM won't work on a 2018 SQ5 using any tool AFAIK. I've searched all the forums and have found no reports of success with any tool.
OBDEleven seems to be the least expensive tool for the other changes although I am not familiar with Carista. You need the pro version plus an Android device (you can buy one for cheap). There are clear instructions for changes that don't involve needing credits for the apps. But you can get free credits fairly quickly if you prefer to use apps that automate the changes. If you don't want android, go VAG COM. It seemed a bit more obtuse but if you can use Windows competently, you can do it.
Fixing seatbelt chimes won't be a problem. Many other things you can do as well. Just Google these forums. But I haven't seen a fix for your "needing to shut the door" issue.
I'd be surprised if a dealer would make these changes. Maybe hiring out will work. The freedom of being able to do something whenever I get an inspiration is worth the investment. Then again, I'm a tinkerer and a programmer by nature.
OBDEleven seems to be the least expensive tool for the other changes although I am not familiar with Carista. You need the pro version plus an Android device (you can buy one for cheap). There are clear instructions for changes that don't involve needing credits for the apps. But you can get free credits fairly quickly if you prefer to use apps that automate the changes. If you don't want android, go VAG COM. It seemed a bit more obtuse but if you can use Windows competently, you can do it.
Fixing seatbelt chimes won't be a problem. Many other things you can do as well. Just Google these forums. But I haven't seen a fix for your "needing to shut the door" issue.
I'd be surprised if a dealer would make these changes. Maybe hiring out will work. The freedom of being able to do something whenever I get an inspiration is worth the investment. Then again, I'm a tinkerer and a programmer by nature.
#3
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I believe there is a misunderstanding here. I enabled VIM on my vehicle and I'm 90% sure I used the ODBEleven to do it. If I'm not mistaken, I've read somewhere that the VIM app does not work with the latest firmware.
#4
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Still would like to know if there is a way to do screen mirroring from an iPhone. And if so would it require VIM enabled?
Last edited by jascooper; 07-23-2018 at 11:35 AM.
#5
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I tried a few things to see if they provide any clues to enabling VIM.
Engine running, car in D, R, or N - DVD plays while stationary or moving at a crawl
Ignition on, engine not running, car in Neutral - DVD plays until coasting faster than a crawl.
Ignition off, car in neutral - DVD plays coasting at faster than above. I didn’t test at any faster speed, but assume it will continue to play until ignition turned on.
Since it won’t play going in reverse, it obviously is unrelated to forward motion, or whether the car is in gear since it stops playing in Neutral until slowed to a crawl.
Does this provide any useful information to anyone familiar with coding in OBDeleven or VAG?
Engine running, car in D, R, or N - DVD plays while stationary or moving at a crawl
Ignition on, engine not running, car in Neutral - DVD plays until coasting faster than a crawl.
Ignition off, car in neutral - DVD plays coasting at faster than above. I didn’t test at any faster speed, but assume it will continue to play until ignition turned on.
Since it won’t play going in reverse, it obviously is unrelated to forward motion, or whether the car is in gear since it stops playing in Neutral until slowed to a crawl.
Does this provide any useful information to anyone familiar with coding in OBDeleven or VAG?
#6
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I seem to have managed somehow to update an old Amazon Fire (it took about 6 system updates), and miraculously install Google Play Sore and the OBDeleven app. Having gotten this far I figure it might be worth it to buy the product. So, do I buy it from obdeleven.com or is there someplace cheaper that won’t take up to a month to ship? Do I want the Pro Pack or anything else, or can I get by without it. They don’t provide much info other than credits add to the cost. If a simple c-ring to pull it out is more than $10, it seems nothing is cheap. With the device, Pro Pack, Tax and shipping I’m over $80. Recommendations please.
update: I just noticed a thread from ECS Tuning. Seems to be the same price but in the US. Are they the place to buy. Any promotions going on. OBDeleven has a spot for promo code, and ECS mentioned something about 200 free credits, but it was 6 months ago and not on their website that I saw.
update: I just noticed a thread from ECS Tuning. Seems to be the same price but in the US. Are they the place to buy. Any promotions going on. OBDeleven has a spot for promo code, and ECS mentioned something about 200 free credits, but it was 6 months ago and not on their website that I saw.
Last edited by jascooper; 07-23-2018 at 07:36 PM.
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#8
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Go for it. That's the going price and a bit less than I paid ($79.99) from ECU. I didn't see the free credits when I bought mine back in April. Get in the habit each day of collecting their 5 free credits. Takes about 5 minutes while doing along with something else mundane. They add up quickly - I accumulated 170 credits and only ever used 10 for an app - all the rest of the changes were made with adaptation changes. You don't need the grip ring. Yes it's a pain to pull the device out of the socket - but unless you plan on doing this regularly, no big deal. You could always epoxy your own holding ring to it.
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#10
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If you use an app to make a change, can you see a list of all the steps/coding it takes to do make the change? I’m just wondering how much effort Audi took to prevent VIM. If it put a message up saying you can’t do it, maybe if you could turn off that message from appearing, video would continue to play. (and when I say ‘you’, I mean someone who knows enough not to kill the MMI completely.)
Last edited by jascooper; 07-24-2018 at 01:17 PM.