LA Auto Show a madhouse (some Audi content)
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LA Auto Show a madhouse (some Audi content)
Maybe this is a good sign for the economy, but boy was it packed! Of course, 95% of these folks are lookie-loos and end up buying their brother's trashed minivan every coupla years. The most popular activity at the show seems to be pulling kids out of strollers and letting them crawl all over the interiors of these cars.
A4 Cab drew quite a lot of attention, but wasn't open for inspection. The biggest draw I saw was the new 7 Series, most people would come up to it talking about how ugly the new tail was supposed to be and then saying "well it doesn't look so bad."
New Infiniti G35 is a looker, I think it's going to be a noble competitor. But it looks like they're going to keep selling it alongside the I35 for a coupla months, how hard is that going to be for a salesman to explain? Nissan 350Z rocks! Passat W8 was up on a turntable but was drawing quite a bit of attention.
A4 Cab drew quite a lot of attention, but wasn't open for inspection. The biggest draw I saw was the new 7 Series, most people would come up to it talking about how ugly the new tail was supposed to be and then saying "well it doesn't look so bad."
New Infiniti G35 is a looker, I think it's going to be a noble competitor. But it looks like they're going to keep selling it alongside the I35 for a coupla months, how hard is that going to be for a salesman to explain? Nissan 350Z rocks! Passat W8 was up on a turntable but was drawing quite a bit of attention.
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The SF show is nothing like the LA show. Visit if you can. A huge zoo.
Having worked the booth at some of those shows, I can tell you that it is brutal. The air is so dry, your voice gets thrashed no mater how much water you drink.
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OK, here's what we were wondering
The cars on display get thrashed. You guys even have to take off stuff like radio and shifter ***** so they don't get stolen!
What happens to those poor cars after the show? They don't go back on the lot as if nothing happened, do they?
What happens to those poor cars after the show? They don't go back on the lot as if nothing happened, do they?
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No, they get sold as show-demos...
Negherbon in Oakland tried to sell me one last year...but they wanted $2500 over invoice for it, with 160 miles on it, but since it is owned by AoA, the luxury tax is paid...oh, and by the way, it is "used".
Some of the smaller shows (eg. St. Louis) use cars from local dealer lots. Those are probably cleaned up and sold as new or sold at slight discounts as show-demos (sometimes actually sold at the show itself), although they are still considered "new" since no one has titled it.
Some of the smaller shows (eg. St. Louis) use cars from local dealer lots. Those are probably cleaned up and sold as new or sold at slight discounts as show-demos (sometimes actually sold at the show itself), although they are still considered "new" since no one has titled it.
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The cars get shipped to the final recipient dealer for show prep. They get the car
after the show. It is sold as a demo. Highly sought after for the basically new car, with a factory discount.
I've worked the VW stand too, and we thought we had all the "steal-ables" out of the car, but someone managed to take the shift boot on a Cabrio right from under out noses.
Crazy. It's easy to spot the serious shoppers from the looky-loos. It is suprisingly like a dealership lot but distilled and concentrated. Just stand back and listen to the BS that goes on around you. The amount of mis-informed customers is amazing - and they really think they are correct. Almost as bad as some of the poor saps working the stands at the lower end of the car spectrum. Whatever.
I've worked the VW stand too, and we thought we had all the "steal-ables" out of the car, but someone managed to take the shift boot on a Cabrio right from under out noses.
Crazy. It's easy to spot the serious shoppers from the looky-loos. It is suprisingly like a dealership lot but distilled and concentrated. Just stand back and listen to the BS that goes on around you. The amount of mis-informed customers is amazing - and they really think they are correct. Almost as bad as some of the poor saps working the stands at the lower end of the car spectrum. Whatever.
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I guess for a non-forum type
who doesn't care that the car is fairly beat up and just wants a deal, well why not? Certainly the car is fine mechanically.
As far as disinformation, the crowd around the Minis was hard to beat. Lots of different theories, all expressed with a great deal of certainty, not worth my time to correct. Hell, all the cars are sold already, what these folks believe can't hurt anyone.
As far as disinformation, the crowd around the Minis was hard to beat. Lots of different theories, all expressed with a great deal of certainty, not worth my time to correct. Hell, all the cars are sold already, what these folks believe can't hurt anyone.
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I doubt these cars are considered used because of the show
My understanding is, until a car is registered for the first time, it is considered "new" even if it's a demo that was beat to **** for almost a year.
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These AoA cars are "used"...they are registered...to AoA...
they are no longer "new" cars, the luxury tax is paid...just as if an ordinary Joe owned it for a few months.
The big difference between an AoA show demo and a dealer demo is that the AoA show demo usually only has a couple hundred miles at most on it and has not been used as a test driver. The engine has probably not been beat on...but the interior probably has. The mileage is purely from driving it around at the site and to and from trucks or points of shipment to other shows.
The small, non-national sponsored events are really just local gatherings of car dealers that set up a mini-showroom at the site. There are usually a few "concept cars" there that are sort of "rented" by the group that arranges the small show.
The big difference between an AoA show demo and a dealer demo is that the AoA show demo usually only has a couple hundred miles at most on it and has not been used as a test driver. The engine has probably not been beat on...but the interior probably has. The mileage is purely from driving it around at the site and to and from trucks or points of shipment to other shows.
The small, non-national sponsored events are really just local gatherings of car dealers that set up a mini-showroom at the site. There are usually a few "concept cars" there that are sort of "rented" by the group that arranges the small show.
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