Problem with PZero identification...
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Problem with PZero identification...
I ordered my summer tires in the fall like a good TireRack tire-shopper. 225/45ZR17 P-Zero Type C.
So I look at my tires, which are still bundled in pairs by UPS in the basement as they've been for three months now, and they do not indicate the Type C designation anywhere on the sidewall or on the Pirelli label.
Did Pirelli stop labeling the Type C differently from the Street OE Assym? Or am I missing something?
I'll mount them and use them up, Type C or not, but I'm curious if I actually ended up with the right tires labeled incorrectly (or not clearly labeled Type C)?
Anyone running these (Type C's) who can jog out to the garage and check what the sidewall says?
Thanks in advance,
Cameron
So I look at my tires, which are still bundled in pairs by UPS in the basement as they've been for three months now, and they do not indicate the Type C designation anywhere on the sidewall or on the Pirelli label.
Did Pirelli stop labeling the Type C differently from the Street OE Assym? Or am I missing something?
I'll mount them and use them up, Type C or not, but I'm curious if I actually ended up with the right tires labeled incorrectly (or not clearly labeled Type C)?
Anyone running these (Type C's) who can jog out to the garage and check what the sidewall says?
Thanks in advance,
Cameron
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Easy...
The c has an arrow inner tread element, 3 grooves, and temp/wear holes on the outer tread. It looks nothing like the street tire. There have been a couple of iterations of this tire, but I believe that this description should work for you.
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Yep...
Ended up with a set of normal PZeros with the yellow "P Zero" emblem and no wear indicators. Also, no "heat cycle and break in" sticker like most track tires have.
Oh well. :-) It isn't like the TT is going to need the "C" tires during its break-in period...
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Oh well. :-) It isn't like the TT is going to need the "C" tires during its break-in period...
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I'm nuts. Tres nuts. But...
... too tempting to pass up the opportunity to play with the real tires :-)
Noise can't possibly be what it was in an A4 with a roll cage, no sound deadening, and no interior... lookin' on the bright side.
Cameron
Noise can't possibly be what it was in an A4 with a roll cage, no sound deadening, and no interior... lookin' on the bright side.
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We'll see, driving a car this afternoon...
... with PZero C's and we'll see how that goes. Condition here is 50F in the sun, 40F in the shade, clear pavement, car is high-hp RWD.
Opinions coming up tonight, probably,
Cameron
Opinions coming up tonight, probably,
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Wow, I think we're both right.
There is DEFINITELY a warm-up period with these tires, but it isn't nearly as bad as I thought. I drove an NSX with "DOT race tires" awhile back and it was easily 200%-400% worse in terms of warmup.
It should be noted these tires were on their one hundred fifty-somethingeth mile and seemed very, very good. The owner did very short but "spirited" drive to heat cycle them and let them sit for 36 hours off the car just as Pirelli recommends. That was about three weeks ago.
The car was a 993, a car I'm very familiar with, and it was apparent when the rears were warm and the fronts were not. Quattro, I would think, would help this problem and the differential between the front and rear heat levels only seemed to last ten or twenty seconds even on a RWD car.
I wish I could have made the evaluation with a Haldex car, a huge parking lot, and a pyrometer, but you take what you can get in the way of testing environments.
In short, a good experience, and a good set of trackable tires for the TT.
It should be noted these tires were on their one hundred fifty-somethingeth mile and seemed very, very good. The owner did very short but "spirited" drive to heat cycle them and let them sit for 36 hours off the car just as Pirelli recommends. That was about three weeks ago.
The car was a 993, a car I'm very familiar with, and it was apparent when the rears were warm and the fronts were not. Quattro, I would think, would help this problem and the differential between the front and rear heat levels only seemed to last ten or twenty seconds even on a RWD car.
I wish I could have made the evaluation with a Haldex car, a huge parking lot, and a pyrometer, but you take what you can get in the way of testing environments.
In short, a good experience, and a good set of trackable tires for the TT.
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