jasonlitka

They have one. The TDI is just about as fast as the 3.0T. The BiTDI sold in Europe blows it away.

Janno Raschinski

Is 2.0 TFSI excessive oil consumption problem fixed on a c7?

uberwgn

Yeah, that's going to be a noticeable upgrade for the 4 cyl cars.


I had a 4 cyl A6 as a loaner car for four days not too long ago. Performance and overall powertrain integration was better than I expected.

Maverick61

Unless all those other manufacturers go the diesel route my point still stands. Many people do not like diesel engines in the US.

snagitseven

While not yet as accepted in Europe and ROW, there is no question that diesel engines are becoming more popular in NA and Audi and the other luxury brands are taking note. It's not inconceivable that sometime in the future, they will become the standard. If that happens, there will always be people who will be unhappy no matter what Audi does in the U.S. Discontinuing the A4 and A6 Avants for example. It's all driven by marketing and financial decisions based on what will provide the most sales and return on investment.

KevinGary

Very true. I remember when we were having the conversation on the C6 forum that Audi needed to have a naturally aspirated V8 available for the A6 in order to compete. Of course the 4.2 is gone. The technology clock is ticking.

Lucien4

The reason diesels are accepted in Europe is simply subsidized diesel fuel. Things are changing though in Europe where more countries will go the opposite direction and will discourage diesel sales (France, UK, ...).

Here in US we see increased diesel sales due to more models offered but plug-in hybrids and EV's sales are growing much more. I expect Audi like BMW to offer more EV's and PHEV's (e.g. E-tron models). Given cost of diesel fuel (and low gas prices) combined with Audi's diesel premiums it seems unlikely we'll see that much increased volume.

See latest alternative fuel sales numbers here: February 2015 Dashboard - HybridCars.com

Maverick61

Diesels are a niche market in the US. They make up about 3% of all car sales. I doubt Audi would be stupid enough to upset 97% of the buying public

snagitseven

VAG leads the way in clean diesel sales in the US and their share is significantly higher than 3% of their total sales. One can google U.S. Audi diesel sales and read many articles how the sales growth over the last 3 years is in the 25-30% range. As I said previously, if it were to happen that diesel becomes the standard, it would be in the future. Next to last word as usual.

Maverick61

Well since you only want the next to last word, the US Public, if they look for alternative engines, is more enthralled with hybrids (10% or so) than diesels (3%)

Yes, VAG leads the way in diesel sales in the US - but they also offer lots of other more conventional choices. And they do that because they sell a whole lot more gas engines than diesels. Your premise was that 'it is possible that Audi might eventually drop the 3.0T in favor of only the TDI as diesel becomes more popular in NA.". First, with just 3% of the market being diesel, it is not likely that diesels gain much more popularity any time soon. Second, while VAG has sold more diesel vehicles than other manufacturers, it is my premise that it would be a marketing / sales disaster if they eliminated their 6 or 8 cylinder gas engines in place of diesels - unless BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, and all their other competition did the same.

Your "sometime in the future, it is not inconceivable diesels become the standard" is quite nebulous. While anything is possible, there is nothing that supports the liklihood of this happening in even the next 10 years.