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Old 08-11-2014, 02:21 AM   #1
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Hi, I have recently taken over an A6 Avant and been familiarising myself with the MMI and features. I noted that when I set the navigation map choice to 'auto' it always switches to the nighttime colours, despite the clock and timezone being set correctly. I get this whether the time is set manually or taken from the GPS.

Can anyone suggest what might be the issue here please? Google has so far not yielded any help.

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If you set the nav display to "day" mode, does it display correctly? If so, could be a defective light sensor. If not, something in the nav itself is an issue. Either way, it could also be a software glitch. Just for grins, try rebooting the MMI. Press Menu, center control selector and upper right function button briefly all at the same time.
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The Navi changes to night mode if the head lights are on, regardless of the time of the day.
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The Navi changes to night mode if the head lights are on, regardless of the time of the day.
I am not sure that this is correct - you can turn on the headlights during the day and the Nav is still on "day" mode. The light sensor is what determines if the Nav will switch to day or not and it is the same sensor that determines if the Auto Headlights will come on, if so enabled. I do, however, agree that TOD has nothing to do with the switching of the day/night modes.
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Thanks for the suggestions, yes it displays correctly in 'day' mode and that is what I am using.

I am running with headlights on and will check if switching them off makes a difference, and otherwise reboot the MMI. Here in Switzerland it is now a legal requirement since 1 July to drive with daytime running lights and my default behaviour has always been to use dipped headlights; it is of course not necessary with the Audi to use them for this purpose so I will see what works to correct the problem and act accordingly. Should be able to test this later today.
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I am not sure that this is correct - you can turn on the headlights during the day and the Nav is still on "day" mode. The light sensor is what determines if the Nav will switch to day or not and it is the same sensor that determines if the Auto Headlights will come on, if so enabled. I do, however, agree that TOD has nothing to do with the switching of the day/night modes.
I would need to check this again but as far as I remember, if the light switch is in AUTO then the Navi uses the interior light sensor and other sensors in the car but if the light switch is in ON then the Navi will switch to night mode if it is itself set to Auto.
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Tested and you are correct: off or auto is fine but once the lights are switched on to dipped headlights the lighting on the instrument cluster comes on and the map switches to 'night' mode.
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Thanks for the suggestions, yes it displays correctly in 'day' mode and that is what I am using.

I am running with headlights on and will check if switching them off makes a difference, and otherwise reboot the MMI. Here in Switzerland it is now a legal requirement since 1 July to drive with daytime running lights and my default behaviour has always been to use dipped headlights; it is of course not necessary with the Audi to use them for this purpose so I will see what works to correct the problem and act accordingly. Should be able to test this later today.
So doesn't having the light switch in "Auto" check all of the right boxes for you?
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... if the light switch is in AUTO then the Navi uses the interior light sensor ...
Which sensor shall be that? Because I want to know whether the main beams are activated (switch in auto). The green symbol beside the switch is always illuminated because I using scandinavian coding (rear lights always on) The navi display is always set to night mode.

What are dipped beams?

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So doesn't having the light switch in "Auto" check all of the right boxes for you?
I guess it does, I am just accustomed to have dipped headlights as running lights....
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Dipped... sorry, maybe that's a British English term... I mean headlights that are not on full beam i.e. normal headlights ON.
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In the U.S. we call them low beams and high beams on the headlights. The DRLs are used as full-time running lights (replacing the old "parking" lights).
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...I am just accustomed to have dipped headlights as running lights....
I do not think that is wise. When you have headlights on (dipped or not) the rear "tail lights" go on as well. In daylight someone behind could misinterpret them as brake lights and do something untoward; exactly what I don't know. But, I do feel it could be confusing to any following motorists. At night all cars have their tail lights on and the extra intensity of the brake lights is obvious. However, in full sun - not so much. That is why I still use the old hand out the window braking signal at times.
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I think there is big difference between tail-light and brake light - not only the brightness. Not to forget the third brakelight.
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I have been driving Volvos for many years and both front and rear lights are on for daytime running. If the Audi doesn't have rear lights on as DRL then I definitely will revert to using headlights and switch the map setting manually!
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You can have the coding changed to have the front DRLs turn on together with the rear lights. IIRC this is referred to as Scandinavian coding.
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Which sensor shall be that? Because I want to know whether the main beams are activated (switch in auto). The green symbol beside the switch is always illuminated because I using scandinavian coding (rear lights always on) The navi display is always set to night mode.

What are dipped beams?

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There is a sensor in the interior rearview mirror (for the auto headlights and auto dimming of the mirrors) and there should be another sensor in the instrument cluster (that dims the instrument cluster scales to remind you to turn on the head light if not in Auto, to dim the MMI screen and to switch the navi to night mode). Not sure where the sensor is exactly these days but you should be able to test the latter by covering the instrument cluster with a towel or sweatshirt in daylight.
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There is a sensor in the interior rearview mirror (for the auto headlights and auto dimming of the mirrors) and there should be another sensor in the instrument cluster (that dims the instrument cluster scales to remind you to turn on the head light if not in Auto, to dim the MMI screen and to switch the navi to night mode). Not sure where the sensor is exactly these days but you should be able to test the latter by covering the instrument cluster with a towel or sweatshirt in daylight.
I thought the sensor on the rear view mirror controls all the auto light and nav functions including auto headlights, nav screen brightness and day/night mode. I don't believe there is more than one light sensor.
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I do not think that is wise. When you have headlights on (dipped or not) the rear "tail lights" go on as well. In daylight someone behind could misinterpret them as brake lights and do something untoward; exactly what I don't know. But, I do feel it could be confusing to any following motorists. At night all cars have their tail lights on and the extra intensity of the brake lights is obvious. However, in full sun - not so much. That is why I still use the old hand out the window braking signal at times.
If you follow an A6 with rear DRL's enabled, such as mine. then I do not think that there will ever be confusion as to braking or not. There are 2 main issues: 1 the recognition of the light going on and off during braking is more important than the brake light being on. I.E. it's the transition that is the most recognizable. 2 The difference in brightness, especially on the A6, leaves no doubt as to its actuation or not.

I absolutely endorse the rear DRL's and I bet that it will eventually be mandated in the US. For cars without automatic lights then it provides lights for people who think that it's cool to drive around at dusk without lights on. They are the same people who think that lights are for seeing instead of lights to been seen.
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You can have the coding changed to have the front DRLs turn on together with the rear lights. IIRC this is referred to as Scandinavian coding.
Thank you for the tip... yes I might well do this or try to have our obliging main dealer set it up if he can be persuaded.
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